General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine
2 hours ·
The estimated total combat losses of the enemy from 24.02.22 to 14.02.25 amounted to /
The estimated total combat losses of the enemy from 24.02.22 to 14.02.25
personnel ‒ about 855480 (+1200) persons,
tanks ‒ 10057 (+17) units,
armored combat vehicles ‒ 20910 (+16) units,
artillery systems ‒ 23115 (+81) units,
MLRS ‒ 1282 (+4) units,
anti-aircraft systems ‒ 1066 (+3) units,
aircraft ‒ 370 (+0) units,
helicopters – 331 (+0) units,
UAV operational-tactical level – 25224 (+152),
cruise missiles – 3063 (+0),
warships – 28 (+0) units,
submarines – 1 (+0) units,
vehicles and fuel tanks – 37252 (+156) units,
special equipment – ​​3745 (+1)

wojtek wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2025 5:57 am Of course. This is only a general association, as the situation now
is obviously much different from the one immediately after WW2.
Besides, it is not known how the current situation will develop.
Trump is not a politician but a businessman, so the way he conducts
negotiations does not have to be typical of politics. Etc.

Nevertheless, many people in Europe are writing about the second
Yalta today; moreover, the upcoming conference in Munich
is even being compared to Munich 1938 with Mr. Chamberlain
(I wouldn't go that far). People simply have their own associations,
which do not have to - zum Glück - come true.

But what I meant was mainly that Europe has slept through the last 3 years
on resolving the situation in Ukraine. The complaints against Trump
that he is resolving it in this way and not another are absurd in this context.
Europe should finally think seriously about its military / defense policy
and start doing something about it. Europe's potential is very large,
but it is currently often wasted on unnecessary and unimportant matters.

Timothy Garton Ash (writes harshly):
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... -us-europe

Let's be real – Europe hasn't exactly been asleep at the wheel these last three years when it comes to Ukraine. They've been actively throwing support into the ring, and I'm not just talking about sending over helmets. We're talking tanks, missiles, the whole nine yards. Sure, you've got Hungary and Slovakia sitting on the sidelines, but the rest of Europe has been fully engaged in this mess.

But here's the thing: it feels like Europe's betting the farm on one play. They're convinced they can squeeze Russia until it breaks, even though that's backfired on them before. It's like they haven't learned a thing! And let's be honest, Ukraine's kind of stuck in the middle of all this. They're playing the hand they're dealt, but who's really calling the shots? It feels like Ukraine is just doing what their backers tell them to do. Picture describes it very well.

doolfrews wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2025 8:49 pm Let's be real – Europe hasn't exactly been asleep at the wheel these last three years when it comes to Ukraine. They've been actively throwing support into the ring, and I'm not just talking about sending over helmets. We're talking tanks, missiles, the whole nine yards. Sure, you've got Hungary and Slovakia sitting on the sidelines, but the rest of Europe has been fully engaged in this mess.

Yes, that's true - the help in equipment and humanitarian aid was
and is very large. For example, I can say that only in 2024 the number
of crossings of the border with Ukraine towards Poland amounted
to 8.5 million people (including multiple crossings). In 2023
it was 18.6 million people, in 2022 – 17.3 million.

But I'm talking rather about a conceptual strategic solution that could
end the conflict in a definitive way. Because that's what Trump is proposing.
Europe should be able to afford this type of solution, but instead of that
some are now outraged - after the fair - that Trump is doing it completely
bypassing Europe. Biden's approach failed in this context; the previous
and present method of assistance - although very important - hasn't led
to the end of the conflict or even to an effective breakthrough of the front.
Ukraine is now in a very difficult situation and urgently requires
a new approach to the subject.

wojtek wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2025 9:03 pm Yes, that's true - the help in equipment and humanitarian aid was
and is very large. But I'm talking rather about a conceptual strategic
solution that could end the conflict in a definitive way. Because that's what
Trump is proposing. Europe should be able to afford this type of solution.
Biden's approach failed in this context; the previous and present method
of assistance - although very important - hasn't led to the end of the conflict
or even to an effective breakthrough of the front. Ukraine is now in a very
difficult situation and requires a new approach to the subject.

The reality is that the power dynamics at play here are undeniable. It's a tough pill to swallow, but Europe's influence in this situation has significantly diminished. Russia has a firm grip, and they're calling the shots now. Ukraine is facing a grim situation with the likely partition and exploitation of its resources. Ultimately, Ukraine's fate rests on its own decisions, and it's facing the consequences of the path it has chosen.

Ogee wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2025 3:07 am
Trump sees that so long as the US are involved in the conflict then the EU (+UK) and Ukraine will never agree to any realistic peace deal.

So Trump is negotiating a US withdrawal with Putin, and then Europe and Ukraine will be left to do what ever they want. Spoiler; there's nothing they can do.

The EU and UK will then have to walk away too, and Ukraine will be left to surrender.

Europeans go into full panic mode.









NATO's Rutte goes into full reverse;




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Ogee wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2025 10:40 pm Europeans go into full panic mode.

This is the best news update I've read in 2025. Big post Ogee!

General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine
46 min ·
The estimated total combat losses of the enemy from 24.02.22 to 15.02.25 were approximately /
The estimated total combat losses of the enemy from 24.02.22 to 15.02.25
personnel ‒ about 856660 (+1180) persons,
tanks ‒ 10068 (+11) units,
armored combat vehicles ‒ 20927 (+17) units,
artillery systems ‒ 23174 (+59) units,
MLRS ‒ 1283 (+1) units,
anti-aircraft systems ‒ 1067 (+1) units,
aircraft ‒ 370 (+0) units,
helicopters – 331 (+0) units,
UAV operational-tactical level – 25341 (+117),
cruise missiles – 3063 (+0),
warships – 28 (+0) units,
submarines – 1 (+0) units,
vehicles and fuel tanks – 37379 (+127) units,
special equipment – ​​3747 (+2)

I want to tell you and your people: you are the ally I have been waiting for my whole life. Not a single American died defending Ukraine! You took our weapons and kicked their asses. And I am very proud that we have such an ally, - Lindsey Graham addresses Zelensky during a speech in Munich.

Lindsey Graham is one of the most pro-Ukrainian on the Trump team. And he was the only voice of reason from the United States today:

• I have been coming to this conference for 25 years. John McCain said at every conference: "Putin is a bastard. He is a liar!" And everyone is like: "Oh no, you misunderstood him!"

• Everyone who is now worried about the call [Trump to Putin]: where were you when we needed to stop Putin?

• Afghanistan ended badly, everyone agrees? But this [Ukraine] will not end badly. President Trump will not do to Ukraine what we did to Afghanistan. He will find a way to end this war, and the sooner the better.

• Putin will not stop until someone stops him. And you are stopping him.

• I think Trump will find a way to end the war in a way that Putin will be a fool to try again.

• How do you do that? Arm this guy [points to Zelensky] to the teeth.

[Voice from the audience: Yes, yes!] Yes! You give him a bunch of F-16s, not a couple. You give him ATACMS, you give him tanks. Because they will fight.

• So let's arm this guy. Let's make a deal on resources so that American business interests are here. Trump will defend this deal.

Europeans (and UK) have gone from panic mode to full meltdown.

Europeans hit with an upper cut by Vance following the gut punch from Hegsyth the day before.

The Europeans still have no clue as to what's going on, they are still deluding themselves that if the west just continue to ship weapons and money to Ukraine it'll all work out eventually.

They refuse to realise Ukraine has already lost the war and have no men left to fight anyway, and that there is no more money or weapons from western stocks left to give.

The US made it clear they are pulling out of 'project Ukraine' no negotiations with Europe or Ukraine necessary. Europe and Ukraine can carry on however they like.

What's more, Vance expressed US concern at the current state of EU democracy, EU attacks on free speech, uncontrolled migration and efforts to ban or block popular political parties.

What the Europeans may be sensing here is that the US may be about to pull US troops out of Europe all together, stay in NATO but hand over to a European lead.

Wait, What!! Europeans having to pay for their own defence having been on the US teat since the end of WW2. Shock and horror.

All that relentless war and Russia and Putin fake narrative rhetoric going up in smoke.











Zelensky desperation. Morale plummets




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vvFish wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2025 4:59 pm
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I want to tell you and your people: you are the ally I have been waiting for my whole life. Not a single American died defending Ukraine! You took our weapons and kicked their asses. And I am very proud that we have such an ally, - Lindsey Graham addresses Zelensky during a speech in Munich.

Lindsey Graham is one of the most pro-Ukrainian on the Trump team. And he was the only voice of reason from the United States today:

• I have been coming to this conference for 25 years. John McCain said at every conference: "Putin is a bastard. He is a liar!" And everyone is like: "Oh no, you misunderstood him!"

• Everyone who is now worried about the call [Trump to Putin]: where were you when we needed to stop Putin?

• Afghanistan ended badly, everyone agrees? But this [Ukraine] will not end badly. President Trump will not do to Ukraine what we did to Afghanistan. He will find a way to end this war, and the sooner the better.

• Putin will not stop until someone stops him. And you are stopping him.

• I think Trump will find a way to end the war in a way that Putin will be a fool to try again.

• How do you do that? Arm this guy [points to Zelensky] to the teeth.

[Voice from the audience: Yes, yes!] Yes! You give him a bunch of F-16s, not a couple. You give him ATACMS, you give him tanks. Because they will fight.

• So let's arm this guy. Let's make a deal on resources so that American business interests are here. Trump will defend this deal.

I am about to deliver a dose of reality that will either infuriate or enlighten you. United States involvement in Ukraine is a stark illustration of self-serving interests cloaked in the guise of altruism.

Lindsey Graham had the audacity to state, on national television that they stand to gain a staggering "two to seven trillion dollars' worth" of rare earth minerals from Ukraine. This is a blatant admission of USA intentions: Ukraine is nothing but a resource play. The U.S. is not invested in Ukraine's well-being, but rather in extracting its wealth, much like a colonial power exploiting its subjects.

And now, with the 'generous' aid package USA provided - a paltry $175 billion, which Ukraine's 'president' Zelensky claims they've only received 75 billion of - USA asking for a return on their investment. In effect, they are asking Ukraine to hand over its valuable resources in exchange for the privilege of being their proxy against Russia. Hell of a deal if you ask me.

Let's not forget, by the way, that the Ukrainian government has lost nearly 25% of its territory to Russian forces, and an entire generation of Ukraine young men has been decimated. This is the bright future their so-called 'allies' in Ukraine can look forward to, courtesy of U.S. foreign policy.

And to those who would defend this travesty, who would claim that they are doing this for the greater good, I say: wake up. They are not doing this for you, they are doing this for them. And to those who would blindly clap along, repeating the mantra that the U.S. is doing this for Ukraine's benefit I say: stop clapping and start thinking.