So after you hear this, who seems to be the real perpetrators of the crimes in Ukraine?

Col. Lawrence Wilkerson, former Chief of Staff to Colin Powell, dropping some major US truth bombs.

1st one: "The rest of the world think we're insane [...] If there's a war criminal in the world of imperial posture, it's the US"

2nd one: "The history of [the Ukraine] conflict is as damning of the empire, US, NATO, etc, as it is of Vladimir Putin. He was massively provoked: the history of this conflict is a history of perfidy, of deceit and lie by everyone from Angela Merkel to the president of the US."

3rd and last, on why the US provoked Ukraine: "We're there because all [our weapon manufacturers] are making money and we're taking no blood. And also we're there to re-establish our hegemony over the European Union... we don't want them to grow up and become independent of us."



This is the full video from which these extracts come from (absolutely worth a watch in full)

Gethsemane wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 11:46 pm Thats the Russian narrative, what you have been brainwashed with from fake news disinfo yes.

One thing is true, NATO solved nothing and clearly made this problem worst at every step, even before the war started. It serves as a divider, it broke several promises to the Russians, and in part as a provocation, all the exercises in the region didn't help one bit.
It would be better to just have a pact, if someone attacks any country in Europe we will all go to defend them, and it could AND SHOULD include Ukraine, then having NATO at all.
NATO didn't prevent it, didn't defend them, and help provoke it.

Putin, not the Russians, is wrong at every step, but the West didn't help one bit. And continues to not help.

Noone wants to tell Putin the truth

These innocent nice people are just provoked, its a peaceful pleasant bunch :S
Mental disease all throughout russia

Don't mess with Putin. He fears nothing. But you can stop him through love.

Gethsemane wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 11:46 pm Thats the Russian narrative, what you have been brainwashed with from fake news disinfo yes.

Huh! I don't speak Russian, so I don't know what their narrative is. You do of course. But I know what members of the US leadership , civilian and military, are saying. They must have been brainwashed too as you know of course more than they do....Geez

RplusT wrote: Fri Jun 23, 2023 1:09 am Huh! I don't speak Russian, so I don't know what their narrative is. You do of course. But I know what members of the US leadership , civilian and military, are saying. They must have been brainwashed too as you know of course more than they do....Geez

Dont need to be russian to read it, there are pleanty of trollfactories working from st. petersburg, spreading in all languages

Gethsemane wrote: Fri Jun 23, 2023 1:37 am Dont need to be russian to read it, there are pleanty of trollfactories working from st. petersburg, spreading in all languages

Why would I want to waste my time and read fake news? I leave that to you. You are the expert when it comes to trolling. And if I wanted to know what trolls think, I just go to this thread. Besides, you are obviously fond of stalking people commenting here with your standard comments as shown above.

So far nothing has happened in this counteroffensive that wasn't totally predictable. The annihilation of another Ukraine army. Total mobilisation announced, more men needed. (see bottom vid)

The mad tactics of this new and very poorly NATO trained Ukrainian army is one reason for their appalling death toll. I've seen countless videos of AFU troops walking upright and straight going forward into Russian machine gun fire and toppling over dead and I think why are they doing that, it's just stupid.

In the fighting last week one village has been retaken by the AFU 8 times, they haven't worked out it's a deliberate setup killing zone.

Their current tactic is to race guys in on the back of pickup trucks, drop them off half way, they then walk to the front under artillery fire, find a trench to hold out in, then call an armoured personal carrier to come and pick them up, then hopefully get back without driving over a mine.


The drop off (click on 'Loading tweet ...' to load)





The pickup (watch to the end)





Current SitRep (from last night)