Please when you load a new orbit program over an old template. Go to Navigator reactive (replace program) and resave to the template. Otherwise you cannot be 100% sure what version you are trading ----> MT4 "hang overs" or whatever.

I took profit why? I can see the trend is green but also I can see Command 0 since at this stage (given the ambience visible) a pullback can be a recycle higher. The partitions nearest 9n remain convergent on it by MRI measure, i.e. still got space at a turn counter direction and so until I see the ambiance for a fall in full I will not trade the down trend (I.e. Until a new command 1) I will hold back long commitments or even keep out of the market and observe (control is knowing where you are and why and what to do to keep your money safe in space). One effect of Command zero now is that it has affected my style to suit the topology. So I keep market stay short because I know where I am and what we are doing. Is Gold turning lower? May be who cares? We trade by the sign and structure currently defining price action. Our interest is to maintain a pattern of returns Similar to the number of Orbit trades registering in Trade control every month (in chunk combinations or in pieces but always positive). We are in it to make money consistently because it is made possible by the fact of chaos. What of a break higher? Oh that will be lovely I will pile in I mean common it will be a nice ride but we wait. So either way I will see it by Orbit and can time it by trade control --------------------> the math is visual as Mandelbrot said. He understood beyond traders and by mathematics what you can see with your eyes. He was a true genius A MASTER.


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PS: Control, Total control. look I do it for real anyone can do it. NOT because of skill but the pattern and the setup. ALSO THERE WAS AN IMMEDIATE ORBIT TRADE OFF LOWS (AT LEAST AS MEASURED BY THE nSign COMMAND. BUT YOU DO GET TIRED OF TRADING YOU CANNOT TRADE THEM ALL OR YOU SOON RUN INTO TROUBLE.)

Darkdoji wrote: Wed Oct 25, 2023 3:17 am Please when you load a new orbit program over an old template. Go to Navigator reactive (replace program) and resave to the template. Otherwise you cannot be 100% sure what version you are trading ----> MT4 "hang overs" or whatever.

I took profit why? I can see the trend is green but also I can see Command 0 since at this stage (given the ambience visible) a pullback can be a recycle higher. The partitions nearest 9n remain convergent on it by MRI measure, i.e. still got space at a turn counter direction and so until I see the ambiance for a fall in full I will not trade the down trend (I.e. Until a new command 1) I will hold back long commitments or even keep out of the market and observe (control is knowing where you are and why and what to do to keep your money safe in space). One effect of Command zero now is that it has affected my style to suit the topology. So I keep market stay short because I know where I am and what we are doing. Is Gold turning lower? May be who cares? We trade by the sign and structure currently defining price action. Our interest is to maintain a pattern of returns Similar to the number of Orbit trades registering in Trade control every month (in chunk combinations or in pieces but always positive). We are in it to make money consistently because it is made possible by the fact of chaos. What of a break higher? Oh that will be lovely I will pile in I mean common it will be a nice ride but we wait. So either way I will see it by Orbit and can time it by trade control --------------------> the math is visual as Mandelbrot said. He understood beyond traders and by mathematics what you can see with your eyes. He was a true genius A MASTER.


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PS: Control, Total control. look I do it for real anyone can do it. NOT because of skill but the pattern and the setup. ALSO THERE WAS AN IMMEDIATE ORBIT TRADE OFF LOWS (AT LEAST AS MEASURED THE nSign COMMAND. BUT YOU DO GET TIRED OF TRADING YOU CANNOT TRADE THEM ALL OR YOU SOON RUN INTO TROUBLE.

My semaphors looks like different, and i don´t have Bands on H4, just on M5.

RollerAndTrading wrote: Wed Oct 25, 2023 3:38 am My semaphors looks like different, and i don´t have Bands on H4, just on M5.

You have the same exact information working on your screen we do want people changing things to fit fancy we need for users to use only the information. In trade control you have bands and the idea is to allow you see chaos in its fullness without the complicated mathematics justifying it. In trade control you will see that before a breakout bands break in such a way that there is a clear pattern of rotations. Failure of a break is a bounce in direction. This pattern is the most learnable pattern of chaos because it is fractal geometry expressed. You see there is something called topological invariance (it is a whole story), the short of it is that the mathematics says that unless the boundary space is receptive to a fluctuation (deformation), that fluctuation cannot enter such space. Space availability is therefore time dependent for through moves and so we need the trader to see for himself and get used to the idea that he trades by mathematical law and unless there is topological invariance between two spaces a flow will not break either way. You stay in finite loop. I hope you understand that as such we cannot have different lookbacks from persons who may not understand to what we measure to give you that sense and meaning of this movement.

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PS: You have to understand that Orbit the Tool is the Mother of Deterministic Trading in markets.

But I see your point you have a Gold diagonal with a Magenta Crown. Correct them yourself in this order first load Aqua, then Gold and Magenta with the current look backs. Or sorry just go back to page 1 and load the new (OCt dated update) replaced the first because of the problem you had initially which the Whitedoji detected on his FF thread. Forgive all of this because I am not doing it for a living right now as I actually I am forced to trade right now to eat

ForexFux wrote: Wed Oct 25, 2023 3:03 am Hmmm, Sam's Orbit looks like mine?

Yes they are are different enough to be the same. Hope you can read Orbit good. Nice One!

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Just to point out that in as much as chaos clearly shows that time frames are relics of another era, it is also true that the distinction between, Scalper, day trader, swing trader and position trader, etc are all false absurdities of extremely poor understandings of how markets actually work. In Orbit you trade what you see and can trade a WK run directly or an MN run directly if the trader so elects. The skill and mechanical approach are the same regardless of term and depends ONLY on the trader.

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PS: An approach for traders confident enough to go pro (I know because I am pro).

Very especial news from FS ----------------------->>>>>>@jimmy and therefore Forex Station (the Station to me), has kindly updated trading styles in profiles to include Fractal Geometry. That is what we do on this thread and in particular the Iterated Functions Systems (IFS) formalism of fractal geometry. There may be those like me delighted to shed (forever) the cover all garb of "technicals" or "fundamentals" for traders (which is false to their understanding, thinking and practice). It is true that the other alternative is Mandelbrotian randomness and one is truly grateful to the Station in being the first internationally reputable trading resource to recognize this in the formal sense. Kudos to @jimmy and the Station.


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PS: You do not have to know the math in a formal sense to be a chaotist and only have to employ its knowledge and applications in your trading and analysis to be one or to use the new trading style Fractal Geometry as your approach for those who understand and employ the science as their trading approach whether they trade with Orbit or not.

Is The New Trade Control Surface M1?

Up to the trader and how she sees market geometry (or determines to use market geometry at any point). But it is important to understand that there is really nothing like time frame in markets just time. We used the MRI to rescale what people call M1 to trade the intraday cycle and so to us the window is the same as M5, M15, M30, and H1 all at the same time and immediately instead of waiting for the "Open" and "closed" bars thinking, etc. Just live and direct quotes. The MRI is NOT for so-called S&R as there is nothing like that in reality and as you can see from the Trade Control Screen you can rescale the same "M1" data to MN by the MRI if you like (especially for fractal analysis that is current). But again please adjust nothing in Trade Control just because you can. You can do experiments on other screens but please leave Trade Control as ordered in every material particular and as we update it too in future. Thank you.

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PS: Those trading Gold have a good chance to see and test learning on Orbit by watching how the nSign command, Command 0, KSO etc are handling as we detailed in the chaos control book. Very interesting indeed especially because Gold is in a critical FLE structure just now.

Especially now in Gold Observe how very clearly PATIENCE in PACING Orbit the Tool changes PERSPECTIVE? DO NOT RUSH TO TRADE, GAIN THE CORRECT PERSPECTIVE FIRST BY THE TOOL. ONCE YOU JUSTIFY YOUR TRIGGER POINT TO POINT -------------------->>>>>>>>>>>>>> TRADE. That is why Orbit "signals" are inductive. CONTEXT IS KING DO NOT GAMBLE AWAY YOUR CAPITAL ------->>>>>>>>>>>GROW IT.

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PS: You do NOT have to lose. THAT IS NOT THE GAME (CAN TAKE INDUCTIVE TO MEAN WILL NOT CONVERGE (synchronize) UNTIL THE SYSTEM (MARKET) IS ON TRIGGER)).

nSign as you will see day after day is one of the sweetest sharpest (cut to the bone), triggers in asynchronous ambience. Designed for accurate fast and short-term trades. You read the context, judge the context you hit it. Very sweet trigger for scalps and intraday moves outside of Orbit Trades. BUT PRACTICE MAKES PERFECT THERE. Not as much a license to kill as Orbit trades.

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PS: You discover "things" and "tricks" even within the regimented structures that Orbit offers -----------------> all for ya good. Not lost in a long while so why should anyone? Was blowing accounts up left, right, center but now trading professionally and top rate. Nothing changed all this while except for the tool and following its "rules". Not about skill so a noob can out smart any time. It is about being intellectually collected = thinking on your feet by the science.

CMD 1 up or down is trend and sets up a durable structure within which to judge trades as long as the given command subsists for a single direction. It is around the fact of dependable direction already indicated that one organizes his mind about trades. The nested commands therefore work within the overall structure of either an up or down trend or CMD 1. For example:

Cy =TT = Red is down (the structure is a diagonal going down from a crown high).
Given it is going down, all down trades are in risk free space.
In this context nSign commands (which include command 2 Orbit Spot) are either pro trend or anti trend. And seeing 5n inverse on sets up the possibility of a deep or shallow pullback traded on nSign command.

Command 0 likewise would be anti trend warning of the begin of some FLE and therefore you trade its changes up and down within the forming FLE and the knowledge that trend is stalled for a while so trading and watching for what side the stall is ultimately resolved.
The inverse of all of the above is true.

These commands are just simple logical conditions addressing what is going on in an up or down trend. Nothing will explode so think of them as logical and easy to learn in practice and apply even from visual observation.
Except at a bottom or top (e.g. Gold top?? or FLE now) everything is simple and clear and at a top or bottom command 0 holds sway as it keeps coming on and going off given FLE. But it is not a once off command and you need to use your eyes to see that command 0 is over only once out of FLE and with price stretching.

Of course each command 1 also has its pullback and reversal parts which also follow the same logic as above. In practice things flow into each other and out of each other and the trader therefore is reading the overall context not "signals". If I know I am trading a down structure and I see an nSign up the context is clear to me. But if it starts growing wings and acting out more than expected then again using my head I can see and tell what is going on given the CMD 1 in play and the location of action on the strange attractor.

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PS: Someone asked privately I am giving a public response here (sharing)