General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine
3 hours ·
The estimated total combat losses of the enemy from 24.02.22 to 10.12.24 amounted to / The estimated total combat losses of the enemy from 24.02.22 to 10.12.24
personnel ‒ about 755940 (+1350) persons,
tanks ‒ 9524 (+5) units,
armored combat vehicles ‒ 19596 (+7) units,
artillery systems ‒ 21064 (+3) units,
MLRS ‒ 1253 (+0) units,
anti-aircraft systems ‒ 1023 (+0) units,
aircraft ‒ 369 (+0) units,
helicopters helicopters – 329 (+0) units,
UAV operational-tactical level – 20107 (+14),
cruise missiles – 2859 (+0),
warships – 28 (+0) units,
submarines – 1 (+0) units,
vehicles and fuel tanks – 31037 (+48) units,
special equipment – 3637 (+1)
Re: WW3 Countdown
772Zelensky goes on a whinge binge at Trump in Paris. Trump ignores him.
Trump then undermines Zelensky by giving far greater figures for Ukr losses than the official Ukr figures.
Zelensky responds by giving new, even lower figures than the official ones - lol.
Trump then gives clear indication US aid likely to dry up after Jan 2025.
So Zelensky then, in a temper, runs to Biden demanding immediate entry into NATO.
Ukr is just running out of men and there is no one coming to save them.
Total collapse is imminent, there is no possible other way out if Ukr continue to refuse to negotiate with Putin.
And so a very real possibility Trump will soon be telling Ukr to just accept Putin's June peace offer and be done with it.
(no NATO - ever, and give up the 4 oblasts and Crimea)
But that deal may have already left the station with Russia now seriously looking at other Russian speaking cities such as Kharkov and Odessa.
Ukr's final defences in east Ukr falling will force a retreat to behind the Dnipro river but there are no solid defences there other than the river itself. Russian can cross in the north and then work their way down south west along the west bank.
Russian advance in Ukraine accelerates. US demands full mobilization
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Trump then undermines Zelensky by giving far greater figures for Ukr losses than the official Ukr figures.
Zelensky responds by giving new, even lower figures than the official ones - lol.
Trump then gives clear indication US aid likely to dry up after Jan 2025.
So Zelensky then, in a temper, runs to Biden demanding immediate entry into NATO.
Ukr is just running out of men and there is no one coming to save them.
Total collapse is imminent, there is no possible other way out if Ukr continue to refuse to negotiate with Putin.
And so a very real possibility Trump will soon be telling Ukr to just accept Putin's June peace offer and be done with it.
(no NATO - ever, and give up the 4 oblasts and Crimea)
But that deal may have already left the station with Russia now seriously looking at other Russian speaking cities such as Kharkov and Odessa.
Ukr's final defences in east Ukr falling will force a retreat to behind the Dnipro river but there are no solid defences there other than the river itself. Russian can cross in the north and then work their way down south west along the west bank.
Russian advance in Ukraine accelerates. US demands full mobilization
UKRAINE Gasping for Breath, Russia Bombs Reach Record Levels
Re: WW3 Countdown
773Ukr troops in Kursk about to be surrounded.
Pokrovsk next in Russian advance and it's role as a distribution hub already negated. Not a fortified town and so will not hold out for very long.
The last of the fortified towns are being cleared in Donbass and so an end of the dense conurbations built to service industrial east Ukr. After that just wide open agricultural land sparsely populated with no defence works all the way to the Dnipro river.
Ukr started out with an army of 750,000 to just under 1 million, now just 330,000 remain. Zelensky says 43,000 killed but what happened to the other 700,000? They must be hiding somewhere?
Rus started with 190,000 troops in Ukr, now Ukr estimate there are 700,000 but only 500,000 engaged on the battlefronts. So 200,000 reserved for …? NATO perhaps, or a charge forward on a Ukr collapse?
Excellent interview (vid below) with an expert on the Russian economy, it's 2 hours long but the first 5 minutes will give the gist. Worth watching the whole thing though, talks about west and Rus economy, military production, propaganda and much more. The guest provides analysis for NATO so now you know that if a NATO rep says the Rus economy is collapsing they are flat out lying.
Macron goes to Poland trying to gather troops to send to Ukr because France can only raise 10,000. At the current Russian kill rate that's enough to last all of 5 days. Poland might send some too but neither country wants to pay for the deployment, they both want ... err... Germany to pay. Never nothing but a fucking clown show.
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Pokrovsk next in Russian advance and it's role as a distribution hub already negated. Not a fortified town and so will not hold out for very long.
The last of the fortified towns are being cleared in Donbass and so an end of the dense conurbations built to service industrial east Ukr. After that just wide open agricultural land sparsely populated with no defence works all the way to the Dnipro river.
Ukr started out with an army of 750,000 to just under 1 million, now just 330,000 remain. Zelensky says 43,000 killed but what happened to the other 700,000? They must be hiding somewhere?
Rus started with 190,000 troops in Ukr, now Ukr estimate there are 700,000 but only 500,000 engaged on the battlefronts. So 200,000 reserved for …? NATO perhaps, or a charge forward on a Ukr collapse?
Excellent interview (vid below) with an expert on the Russian economy, it's 2 hours long but the first 5 minutes will give the gist. Worth watching the whole thing though, talks about west and Rus economy, military production, propaganda and much more. The guest provides analysis for NATO so now you know that if a NATO rep says the Rus economy is collapsing they are flat out lying.
Macron goes to Poland trying to gather troops to send to Ukr because France can only raise 10,000. At the current Russian kill rate that's enough to last all of 5 days. Poland might send some too but neither country wants to pay for the deployment, they both want ... err... Germany to pay. Never nothing but a fucking clown show.
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Re: WW3 Countdown
774This is a very preliminary plan, and these international military forcesOgee wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 10:39 pm Macron goes to Poland trying to gather troops to send to Ukr because France can only raise 10,000.
would not be intended for the front line to fight, because
it would actually make little sense. These forces would be peaceful
and would be supposed to secure the truce if Trump's peace plan succeeds
(Macron witnessed Trump's conversation with Zelensky in Paris).
Trump probably still believes that the Kremlin will accept his peace plan.
This is highly doubtful, because recent events indicate that the capture
of Ukraine is an absolutely top priority for the Kremlin. Namely, after many decades,
Russia has allowed itself to lose its only influence in Asia Minor over the Mediterranean Sea,
which was taken care of even under Brezhnev. This is a great loss in the context
of international strategy, considering how much is happening there politically,
militarily and in terms of resources.
The rebellion in Syria won so easily also because of the weakness of the Russian
forces there, which were previously transferred to Ukraine. On the other hand,
the Russian forces that were still in Syria will now probably be sent
to the Ukrainian front.
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775
General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine
9 hours ·
The estimated total combat losses of the enemy from 24.02.22 to 11.12.24 amounted to / The estimated total combat losses of the enemy from 24.02.22 to 11.12.24
personnel ‒ about 757340 (+1400) persons,
tanks ‒ 9526 (+2) units,
armored combat vehicles ‒ 19616 (+20) units,
artillery systems ‒ 21067 (+3) units,
MLRS ‒ 1253 (+0) units,
anti-aircraft systems ‒ 1023 (+0) units,
aircraft ‒ 369 (+0) units,
helicopters helicopters – 329 (+0) units,
UAV operational-tactical level – 20111 (+4),
cruise missiles – 2859 (+0),
warships – 28 (+0) units,
submarines – 1 (+0) units,
vehicles and fuel tanks – 31073 (+36) units,
special equipment – 3641 (+4)
9 hours ·
The estimated total combat losses of the enemy from 24.02.22 to 11.12.24 amounted to / The estimated total combat losses of the enemy from 24.02.22 to 11.12.24
personnel ‒ about 757340 (+1400) persons,
tanks ‒ 9526 (+2) units,
armored combat vehicles ‒ 19616 (+20) units,
artillery systems ‒ 21067 (+3) units,
MLRS ‒ 1253 (+0) units,
anti-aircraft systems ‒ 1023 (+0) units,
aircraft ‒ 369 (+0) units,
helicopters helicopters – 329 (+0) units,
UAV operational-tactical level – 20111 (+4),
cruise missiles – 2859 (+0),
warships – 28 (+0) units,
submarines – 1 (+0) units,
vehicles and fuel tanks – 31073 (+36) units,
special equipment – 3641 (+4)
"Only the price on the chart can show the entrance to the deal..."
Re: WW3 Countdown
7761. Continuation of previous post: interview with oligarch close to the Kremlin
published in The Financial Times:
“Kellogg comes to Moscow with his plan, we take it and then tell him to screw himself, because we don’t like any of it. That’d be the whole negotiation,” the outlet quoted Malofeyev as saying.
https://meduza.io/en/news/2024/12/02/pu ... garch-says
Perhaps this is part of the negotiations that the Kremlin
is starting from a very high level in order to force the other side
to make concessions and reach a satisfactory compromise.
2. Interesting analysis of the Russian economy in The Moscow Times.
Many interesting articles are only in Russian.
https://www.moscowtimes.ru/2024/10/26/n ... yu-a146063
Translation:
"There's Not Enough for Everyone." Russia's Economy Is Rapidly Dividing into a Growing Military and Stagnating Civilian Economy
The concentration of resources in military production has led to the civilian sector of the economy balancing between stagnation and decline. In September, excluding seasonal and calendar factors, industry was unable to grow compared to August, and by the end of the quarter, production symbolically decreased (-0.1%). At the same time, industries related to the military-industrial complex are growing rapidly, while the rest, accordingly, are declining. The main decline is occurring in the extractive industries (primarily due to the OPEC+ deal), but other civilian industries are also suffering.
https://www-moscowtimes-ru.translate.go ... r_pto=wapp
published in The Financial Times:
“Kellogg comes to Moscow with his plan, we take it and then tell him to screw himself, because we don’t like any of it. That’d be the whole negotiation,” the outlet quoted Malofeyev as saying.
https://meduza.io/en/news/2024/12/02/pu ... garch-says
Perhaps this is part of the negotiations that the Kremlin
is starting from a very high level in order to force the other side
to make concessions and reach a satisfactory compromise.
2. Interesting analysis of the Russian economy in The Moscow Times.
Many interesting articles are only in Russian.
https://www.moscowtimes.ru/2024/10/26/n ... yu-a146063
Translation:
"There's Not Enough for Everyone." Russia's Economy Is Rapidly Dividing into a Growing Military and Stagnating Civilian Economy
The concentration of resources in military production has led to the civilian sector of the economy balancing between stagnation and decline. In September, excluding seasonal and calendar factors, industry was unable to grow compared to August, and by the end of the quarter, production symbolically decreased (-0.1%). At the same time, industries related to the military-industrial complex are growing rapidly, while the rest, accordingly, are declining. The main decline is occurring in the extractive industries (primarily due to the OPEC+ deal), but other civilian industries are also suffering.
https://www-moscowtimes-ru.translate.go ... r_pto=wapp
Re: WW3 Countdown
777
General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine
3 hours ·
The estimated total combat losses of the enemy from 24.02.22 to 12.12.24 were approximately / The estimated total combat losses of the enemy from 24.02.22 to 12.12.24
personnel ‒ about 758730 (+1390) persons,
tanks ‒ 9532 (+6) units,
armored combat vehicles ‒ 19644 (+28) units,
artillery systems ‒ 21072 (+5) units,
MLRS ‒ 1253 (+0) units,
anti-aircraft systems ‒ 1023 (+0) units,
aircraft ‒ 369 (+0) units,
helicopters helicopters – 329 (+0) units,
UAV operational-tactical level – 20111 (+0),
cruise missiles – 2861 (+2),
warships – 28 (+0) units,
submarines – 1 (+0) units,
vehicles and fuel tanks – 31127 (+54) units,
special equipment – 3642 (+1)
3 hours ·
The estimated total combat losses of the enemy from 24.02.22 to 12.12.24 were approximately / The estimated total combat losses of the enemy from 24.02.22 to 12.12.24
personnel ‒ about 758730 (+1390) persons,
tanks ‒ 9532 (+6) units,
armored combat vehicles ‒ 19644 (+28) units,
artillery systems ‒ 21072 (+5) units,
MLRS ‒ 1253 (+0) units,
anti-aircraft systems ‒ 1023 (+0) units,
aircraft ‒ 369 (+0) units,
helicopters helicopters – 329 (+0) units,
UAV operational-tactical level – 20111 (+0),
cruise missiles – 2861 (+2),
warships – 28 (+0) units,
submarines – 1 (+0) units,
vehicles and fuel tanks – 31127 (+54) units,
special equipment – 3642 (+1)
"Only the price on the chart can show the entrance to the deal..."
Re: WW3 Countdown
778Only fair to point out that 'The Moscow Times' is a staunchly anti Putin English language newspaper based in the Netherlands and doesn't actually have anything to do with Moscow.wojtek wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2024 3:23 pm
2. Interesting analysis of the Russian economy in The Moscow Times.
Re: WW3 Countdown
779Biden escalates as Trump negotiates:
Biden fires more ATAMS into Russia leads to a new warning from the US of another Oreshnik missile to be launched within next few days.
All the ATACMS seem to have been shot down with some debris hitting a car park, Ukr say they hit an industrial complex next to the car park, Rus say they were aimed at Rus command centre further along the trajectory before being intercepted.
Meanwhile Trump uses Victor Orban to start negotiations with Putin. From the Russian read out of the call between Orban and Putin it sounds like the first offer from Trump was a big reduction in sanctions in exchange for a ceasefire. Putin's response was an immediate, polite, but definite, No.
Fairly certain Trump will need to keep raising till he gets to Putin's oft stated bare minimum (never NATO in Ukr and the 4 oblasts on top of Crimea) because, in spite of western commentator's propaganda, Putin knows he actually holds all the cards.
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(Ukr first 30 minute)
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Biden fires more ATAMS into Russia leads to a new warning from the US of another Oreshnik missile to be launched within next few days.
All the ATACMS seem to have been shot down with some debris hitting a car park, Ukr say they hit an industrial complex next to the car park, Rus say they were aimed at Rus command centre further along the trajectory before being intercepted.
Meanwhile Trump uses Victor Orban to start negotiations with Putin. From the Russian read out of the call between Orban and Putin it sounds like the first offer from Trump was a big reduction in sanctions in exchange for a ceasefire. Putin's response was an immediate, polite, but definite, No.
Fairly certain Trump will need to keep raising till he gets to Putin's oft stated bare minimum (never NATO in Ukr and the 4 oblasts on top of Crimea) because, in spite of western commentator's propaganda, Putin knows he actually holds all the cards.
TRUMP wants end to project Ukraine, Zelensky panics
Biden's Ukraine Policy: Sabotage Trump w/Patrick Henningsen
(Ukr first 30 minute)
Zelensky Rejects Christmas CeasefireRussia Keeps Its Bases In Syria Military Summary 2024.12.12
Re: WW3 Countdown
780Yes, that's correct. Perhaps the journalists want to avoid to be on the list:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_j ... _in_Russia
The dangers to journalists in Russia have been known since the early 1990s but concern over the number of unsolved killings soared after Anna Politkovskaya's murder in Moscow on 7 October 2006. While international monitors mentioned a dozen deaths, some sources within Russia talked of over two hundred fatalities.