ChuChu Rocket wrote: Thu Jun 01, 2023 12:58 am Purple are areas that's been occupied by Russia pre Feb 2022
Red are areas now occupied by Russia

Ogee wrote: Sun Jun 04, 2023 4:54 pm oh, so forget zerohedge now, quick, divert, change target. So now you're saying the Bebo film is fake? no it's not. Your constant baiting, flaming and trolling is just boring - fuck off.


Meanwhile,

Peace talks proposed by Indonesian general,

General Prabowo Subianto proposes a peace plan for Russia-Ukraine war. 1. Immediate ceasefire. 2. Withdrawal by 15 km of troops from both sides, creation of a demilitarized zone in between. 3. Immediate UN peacekeeping deployment. 4. UN referendum in occupied territories.

... is typical of many proposed but completely unacceptable to Ukraine who know full well the occupied states will vote overwhelmingly to be Russian.

Not least because Ukraine have been shelling them for 8 years but also because the head of Ukrainian Intelligence says they will all be physically eliminated if Ukraine regains control.





Perhaps best then that this guy has disappeared since the missile strike on the GUR headquarters in Kiev.

-- GEROMAN -- time will tell - -- @GeromanAT
13h
Where spring offensive?
Where Zaluzhny?
Where Zirsky?
Where Budanov?
All I see are desperate PR stunts and Western clowns in full panic mode
NATO is losing.

This is true but Zelensky seems hell bent on feeding his last 100,000 troops into the meat grinder before he says goodbye.


This war and sanctions are costing the EU a fortune.

The average amount of support that European governments have had to pay to help their families and businesses cope with high electricity and food prices is 700 billion - more than ten times the support for Ukraine," Borrell said at the Shangri-La Dialogue security conference.

Meanwhile in Russia,

Russia's factory activity expands for 13th month running in May

"Activity in Russia's manufacturing sector increased for the 13th month running in May and employment rose at its sharpest pace in more than two decades, though export orders contracted"

https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/ ... 023-06-01/


And this is why ...

Russia Is Defeating Ukraine With One Hand Tied Behind Its Back

Russia is now prepared to face direct NATO intervention in this war.

WILLIAM SCHRYVER
20 APR 2023

Once it became clear the Russians had no intention to launch a winter offensive, I’ve steadily come to believe they concluded no later than summer 2022 that they must prioritize preparations to face a possible direct NATO intervention in this war...

https://imetatronink.substack.com/p/vol ... last-dance

Gethsemane wrote: Sun Jun 04, 2023 6:16 pm No, zerohedge is still just as shit, dont worry. Russian troll factory products all of them, your twitter shares, and zerohedge. i'll link more evidence if you like, plenty out there...

boytoy wrote: Sun Jun 04, 2023 7:33 pm As the news source quality assurance manager could you tell us something: If you had to pick just one (English) news source out of the whole internet to rely on what would it be?

Ogee wrote: Sun Jun 04, 2023 8:04 pm The on again off again counteroffensive is OFF again LOL.

Zelensky tells The Times they just don't have enough of ... (fill in the blank).

The real reason from the WSJ






And the real reason for the war. The Ukraine is being sacrificed to degrade Russia militarily so the US could pull it's troops out of Europe and concentrate in China instead, well that was the plan but not working out that way.


In the United States called the real reason for supporting Ukraine
The Washington Post columnist Mark Thiessen told what goals the White House is pursuing by sending billions of dollars worth of military equipment and ammunition to Ukraine.
"A victory over Russia in Ukraine would pay Russia the 'dividend of defeat' by allowing the United States to divert resources from Europe to the Pacific theater to counter China," he writes.
During the special operation, the percentage of those opposed to military supplies to Kyiv increased from 9 to 40%.

Gethsemane wrote: Sun Jun 04, 2023 9:10 pm I don't think you'd be interested anyway, you only rely on Russian news, no point trying to tell you anything of value.
Whatever i told you would try and find a way to bash, like everytime you have posted previously.
You just keep reading zerohedge and be happy