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Re: A New Trading Game (chaos game) Played for Money and Played in Risk- Free Space

Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2023 6:21 am
by Darkdoji
ForexFux wrote: Wed Nov 22, 2023 2:23 am I guess n and 2n will likely go to amplitude + again.

When don't you stack more orders? After the 30m fle there was again a fresh cmd1. Everything else on the screenface was also green/bullish.
There was no fresh CMD 1. CMD 1 is a structure within which pullbacks are allowed and define joining points. As long as 6n Cy = TTo = Up or Green the command is a constant that informs you on how to trade the space. It does not change or refresh (has pullback signals yes which is the closest to refreshing), otherwise once on you follow it which is why I am able to employ a holding strategy. If I see a pullback sign I will exit all trades given that all reversals begin with a pullback. Please check again the command structure as it is important you understand them better than you indicate in your post. Very important for self confidence and knowing what to do to increase gains given a specific command structure. Hope I am being helpful here. Cheers

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PS: By Pullback sign I mean a change to Cy = TTc

Re: A New Trading Game (chaos game) Played for Money and Played in Risk- Free Space

Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:50 am
by ImpLaNT
Darkdoji wrote: Wed Nov 22, 2023 12:58 am
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A most luxurious entry, Maestro!!
And yesterday I sat on the fence all day :(. Waking up in the morning I could not correctly assess the situation and join the movement, although there was a chance, as it became clear later. But to be honest, until the end of the day I did not believe that it could go so far. Conclusion - lack of understanding, which gives rise to uncertainty. Will continue to work....
P.S... I don’t see 2012 as a target anywhere. But the price has gone too far. Perhaps 2035 in the future, if we look at the weekly timeframe?

Re: A New Trading Game (chaos game) Played for Money and Played in Risk- Free Space

Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2023 11:46 am
by Ikeyoung27
i cant wait until the full details come out on understanding 0rbit.

Re: A New Trading Game (chaos game) Played for Money and Played in Risk- Free Space

Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2023 1:00 pm
by Darkdoji
THIS IS THE MATHEMATICS AND THE MATHEMATICS IS LAW AND INCONTROVERTIBLE

1. Price behaviour is recursive (repetitive in all aspects as it is a shape), and that means PRICE REPAINTS up and down going up or down (which is why Semaphores or zigzags are exactly correct and Solar Winds is the most accurate oscillator in the world – those tools follow price exactly which is why "stone age" traders say wrongly that those tools repaint (they have no idea how price works dynamically).

2. Deterministic means point to point (X must = Y always and vice versa for every interval of price, the vice versa part means Inverse On), which fractures the market and causes price to repaint forever. Which is also why price movement is bijective and therefore constitutes a homeomorphism (or a structure preserving transformation or deformation of space).

3. CMD 1 (Cy = TT) says on that equality price will exhibit the behaviour in 1 and 2 to infinity (meaning to some stop we have no value measure for but we know only by topological value which = Semaphore head at some scale we do not know until we see the stop).

4. So we follow price on its terms not on the terms of "stone age" thinking (Stone Age trading = "technical" and "fundamental" analysis which are akin to predicting the future by the entrails of dead animals which = voodoo).

5. Why? Because when the command is true it translates the same behaviour to terms higher than the intraday cycle and as long as they are changing to the same equality one after the other we keep going. But we cannot know how far we will go and depends ONLY on when the sequence exhausts which depends on the nonlinear economics of buying and selling an asset which is beyond the ability of anyone or anything to predict and thus in theory it can go forever.

6. This is why we have risk-free space in the direction of the command. The behaviour of the market is therefore NOT RANDOM (e.g. not based on news, or other speculative nonsense etc) and it is total illiteracy to think it does which is what and how "stone age" traders think and behave and the reason why they cannot trade the market deterministically and come up with all kinds of partial "systems" based on rules that are unrelated to actual market dynamical behaviour. Just telling themselves and everyone they know lies based on their ignorance and fear and causing everyone to lose all their money to brokers every day.

7. Orbit does not have those kinds of rules and follows the scientific explanation above and so you can enter a trade as I have and leave it to run and the trade will keep going because after price repaints it will continue and continue in one direction at a time ONLY.

8. So yes when Command = 1 price will look uncertain everyday because it repaints but it will maintain the Command structure as it is a chaotic variable and will not fail until the Command changes. Which is why Orbit is correct 100/100 times and if you follow Orbit you can be too. Simple!

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Re: A New Trading Game (chaos game) Played for Money and Played in Risk- Free Space

Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2023 3:18 pm
by Ikeyoung27
So basically follow cmd1 CY=TT. Try to get in on the direction of that especially if everything else is lining up correct ?

Re: A New Trading Game (chaos game) Played for Money and Played in Risk- Free Space

Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2023 4:56 pm
by ImpLaNT
Ikeyoung27 wrote: Wed Nov 22, 2023 3:18 pm So basically follow cmd1 CY=TT. Try to get in on the direction of that especially if everything else is lining up correct ?
First, to log in using a command, you must wait for the pullback to complete. Pullbacks can be of different depths. It is very difficult to determine in advance the depth of the pullback. But there must be at least a full-fledged pullback in the near space. That is, the KSO oscillator must move at least n-2n partitions to the bottom line (for an upward movement). Only such situation can be considered minimally sufficient to reopen a position according to the appearance of a new command.
For example, in the current situation, we see that at the minimum point of the current pullback, KSO was unable to transfer the n-2n partitions to the bottom line, which means the pullback is insufficient and it is not worth entering a buy when a new command appears, wait until the pullback ends.

Re: A New Trading Game (chaos game) Played for Money and Played in Risk- Free Space

Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:24 pm
by Darkdoji
Ikeyoung27 wrote: Wed Nov 22, 2023 11:46 am i cant wait until the full details come out on understanding 0rbit.
Do not have to wait I have detailed the basic thinking everywhere I have been able to for instance in my manuals and notes and in my posts repeating the same more or less every time. Look at the links below and one shows the same story in the pattern I show and explain and the other tells the same story in the logic that produces the pattern you see (a pattern you can see on the MRI right now). Look in history and you find that this is always true IT NEVER FAILS because price is NON RANDOM. Try to understand that clearly in your mind and what it means and therefore how you must look at the market always and yes it is tough to accept because of the constant poison from "Stone Age" trading and traders too far gone to be saved from themselves but they can NEVER CONTRADICT ME NEVER so decide now which is the truth. Because the only defense against "Stone Age" thinking and effects is knowledge based on not even what I say but your own eyes and observations now and ahead. It is a truth that must form in your mind validated by ongoing experience which consistently confirm the same truth.
The things I have been saying are things that follow logically from precept or the teachings of complex dynamical systems so understand them by being curious enough to google stuff up like deterministic, etc. The idea that what I will produce something will give you all the steps to take and magically transform you is false. It is a mental thing and ONLY YOU CAN TRANSFORM YOUR SENSE OF THE MARKET BY THE TRUTH OF THE KNOWLEDGE YOU have GAINED SO FAR. Until you understand things in your own sense that will NOT happen so reason along with me. My article may take time still may be a week or two because I have issues I am old and dying I have a serious case of peripheral neuropathy of which doctors are not even sure it is not multiple sclerosis and sometimes it is so bad I cannot type and I have food coma which knocks me out every time I eat (SO ALWAYS SCARED OF FOOD) and this is so bad sometimes I am out for hours (from just eating normal food), then I have domestic things to attend to and at the same time trade etc etc do not wait there is no time there is enough out there already the new notes will make it better and clearer but in the end it is the same as the two links I now point to and my notes and slides and posts etc. The idea that things will change for you just from what I say is false because you have to still practice and test and fit them into a style that is yours and that takes some doing. Hope I make some sense?

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and this a-new-trading-game-chaos-game-played-fo ... 1295528244

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PS: Even if I drop dead suddenly I have made arrangements that a final version that will not expire be released here so it is not about me it is about you beating the "Stone Age" scarecrows and lies. I really hate them they cost me and a lot of traders a hell lot of money and lost time.

Re: A New Trading Game (chaos game) Played for Money and Played in Risk- Free Space

Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:42 pm
by Darkdoji
Ikeyoung27 wrote: Wed Nov 22, 2023 3:18 pm So basically follow cmd1 CY=TT. Try to get in on the direction of that especially if everything else is lining up correct ?
Exactly correct but there are nuances based on the other commands (and sub states of the market) and how they are all related. For you (and this is to everyone), this is not about steps to entry or take profit etc this is about understanding Orbit as an Oscillator Model of the market. When you trade and see Orbit as such you trade and see the complete story of the market each time and that is the edge, understanding that price at all scales loops through a parabola up and down marked by Semaphores gives you the complete story so that you can work things out based on that H4 point to H4 point. It is simple but requires thought and action that are personal and especially requires active blocking out of "Stone Age" nonsense and the courage based on knowledge to trade the truth which is only difficult because price is nonmonotonic (moves up and down going up or down), allowing the "stone age" people to interject with their lies -----> "oh Powell said this that is why market is down", etc just check the pattern to understand that the market does not know or care about Powel it follows a function and unless that function agrees with such silly rumors nothing suggested by them will happen. Look man in theoretical chaos there is something called the basin of attraction a partition on the strange attractor that has its physical counterpart as the microstructure matching engines that receive and match orders and hence the sequences we trade. Read up order matching and see if there is any space for Powell there. No it is nonrandom and follows a logical algorithm that never changes. You do not have to accept anything I say unless you can confirm for yourself. So that is what you do trying to confirm thoughts you form based on some of the things you read on this thread and deciding how you will implement them in your trading.

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Re: A New Trading Game (chaos game) Played for Money and Played in Risk- Free Space

Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2023 11:29 pm
by Darkdoji
Where the hell is @Davie 111? @Davie let us know you are fine. Cheers

The Crow (_-_) Worried

Re: A New Trading Game (chaos game) Played for Money and Played in Risk- Free Space

Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2023 12:14 am
by Dave111
Darkdoji wrote: Wed Nov 22, 2023 11:29 pm Where the hell is @Davie 111? @Davie let us know you are fine. Cheers

The Crow (_-_) Worried
Not been trading this week, I caught Covid and been spending a lot of time in bed but a bit brighter today.
I was feeling sorry for myself until I read your post, I knew you had some serious health issues but that is not good. My father in law had MS so I know about this type of condition.
I should be back soon and we can get going again.
Take care.

Davie