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Ladies and gentlemen the pilot shows us how in the sequence of snaps below (zip folder) : Let us hear here what you think: For him the best exit is the best entry which is the principle that point matching directly supports.

The Crow - Inverted (_-_)

PS: What would be really nice is feedback, feedback and feedback. We would like to know ------------> do people understand to trade this ultra simple approach? For those trading it what are the issues, where is the confusion about the approach? When we hear nothing we know nothing and this feedback has to come from members since non - members have no access to providing feedback. Feedback will help everyone.
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Re: A New Trading Game (chaos game) Played for Money and Played in Risk- Free Space

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Some points to note from the pilots trading:

a) There is nothing haphazard in his trading and no coincidences he trades end to end by correctly matching 5n/6n end points.
b) He employs the Screenface well using Screenface sign changes to time entry on match.
c) Note that on a 5n/6n match the partitions below those 2 (4n - n) array out matching points correctly too showing the system (market) is mathematically well behaved.
d) One way to practice and perfect point matching (even without a generalised crosshair on MT4), is to split screen as shown in @Meyney's post here: viewtopic.php?p=1295510555#p1295510555
e) In the pilot's hands Orbit the Tool expresses Grail standard performance and so can it in your hands there is not much that is complex in the approach. It is direct and straightforward - and works every time.
f) But practice makes perfect and if you have a tool and an approach with the tool that allows you consistent winning it is worth it to dedicate time by using even a 2 screen split to practice the mapping or point matching approach until you get it right. Will not take you time to confirm it works and will not take time to master it since it is purely visual - see the match exit current trade then wait for screenface sign change and enter new trade just like the pilot.
g) Lets go for it - not a complexity at all as the pilot clearly shows. I do not see a "trading system" that can match the approach for simplicity - do you?

The Crow (-_-)

PS: Going below the 5n/6n combo to point match is possible since the system is mathematically well behaved and hence we say you can trade from any time frame - but it can be confusing since the fractures would be more "elaborate" at greater lacunarity, or "fractal density". Best to keep to the suggested combo 5n/6n since it is far simpler to do so.

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Point Matching Example BTC

We have below in snaps H4 or 6n (Top Snap), and H1 or 5n (Bottom Snap).
A is a matched point not shown in bottom snap, as it is too high and to the top left in bottom snap. A = (6n 2Y = 5n 4 G).
But we see a spot match B = C (6n 1 W = 5n 2Y) which is the immediate spot match of interest.
So we can we read price as going down to 6n 2Y = 5n 3A (or 5n 4G depending on depth).
However, look at the 6n (top snap), bottom left at D (green/white arrow), and observe we have a Gold crown. Which suggests that if the next stop does not displace that point lower (unlikely), then at the expected match in (4) above price MUST rotate higher to X = Y or a 6n Gold Crown @ high.
Ultimately point matching is reading the market by a system of pivoting. The trader needs to make an effort of learning matches and their implications for range and market objective in topological range (Semaphore Space).

Trading Courtesy of The Pilot

The Crow (-_-)
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What kind of visitor are you and what do you want?

We get lots of visitors everyday on the forum which is really nice (of course not all visitors come for very nice reasons and many do for nefarious or other less than worthy reasons, but of course no one can really say what), but one thing that intrigues me is this - how many come to relate to the wonder of the world we live in? The fact for example that the market as you now know it is in the end a natural phenomenon and one with the same structural make up as Roman cabbages, the clouds, the human heart, coastlines, lightening, etc. Is it not simply amazing? Does anyone visiting ever think thoughts like that? Or do you just want to learn a "system" for making money? That will be a huge pity indeed.

The Crow (-_-)

PS: Coming from a world where most have been taught the market wrongly (e.g. bulls and bears, heads and shoulders, random and news driven, support and resistance) - and many other fallacies and scarecrows - unless, one imbues himself with the clearly different and scientifically justified facts we share here - I tell you it is difficult to the point of impossibility to still profit from the amazing fact of chaos theory and fractal geometry on any consistent basis. You MUST live the thesis to win.

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Cap VS 2:1 Black Arrow Matches
Sometimes availability defines how you trade matches. Below the pilot shows how you trade when you are not going to be around a lot of the time you have a trade running by setting stop = market stop + an allowance for spread. Where you are however around and or you do not have the stomach for range play in your overall trading plan, it is best to treat 2:1 Black Arrow matches as inflectors and trade them point to point. This is justified by our mapping approach which shows and treats all 2:1 matches as firm tradable stops (or inflectors), in space. It is best practice.

The Crow (-_-)

PS: The trade in this post is the same here however note that the screenshot here is a shot of 6n or the H4 time frame: viewtopic.php?p=1295511230#p1295511230
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Just in case people are not clear as to my meaning here:viewtopic.php?p=1295511367#p1295511367 we show the meaning graphically in the slide below: We are saying on any partition you see the 2:1 black arrow form at low or high trade it. In lower time frames it is also the safest thing to do following price. Our mapping approach specifies it as initial value (inverse on), and on screenface timing it is motive. So looking for what to trade is simplified by knowing what fracture is most common in market space to trade.

You also know its structure and can expect (project or interpolate), its behaviour ahead as defined here. Look at our mapping scheme - you can also find similar structures such as the 3:2:1 fracture. But beyond the 2:1 fracture things can become pretty elaborate and so, and especially for day traders, the 2:1 fracture should work well. They also play out in large partitions just that they do so over much longer time spans.

I hope we are now on the same page on this -----------> instead of saying 5n = 2Y and 6n = 1W we use the form 2:1 fracture - especially since the same relationship between 6n and 5n pervades all of market space.

The Crow - Inverted (_-_)

PS: You will find that you cannot simply trade fractures on any timing using some "indicator" of your choosing -----------> trading the Orbit Trade Cycle mapping works consistently only on screenface timing (if you doubt this try it otherwise and see the outcome over time).
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Woodyz wrote: Mon May 01, 2023 9:36 pm Just out of interest, are you able to code and have an entry arrow printed on the chart with an alert for an optimal entry.............Just a simple Yes or No
P.S............I don't need a long winded explanation either way
Thanks in advance.
NO

The Crow -Inverted (_-_)
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PS: What would be really nice is feedback, feedback and feedback. We would like to know ------------> do people understand to trade this ultra simple approach? For those trading it what are the issues, where is the confusion about the approach? When we hear nothing we know nothing and this feedback has to come from members since non - members have no access to providing feedback.

Not very much feedback here so let's take the short EU on the 30M posted in the Zip file. Interesting why shorting at this level/time? I have some idea's but perhaps there will come more feedback?
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Meyney wrote: Tue May 02, 2023 4:53 am PS: What would be really nice is feedback, feedback and feedback. We would like to know ------------> do people understand to trade this ultra simple approach? For those trading it what are the issues, where is the confusion about the approach? When we hear nothing we know nothing and this feedback has to come from members since non - members have no access to providing feedback.

Not very much feedback here so let's take the short EU on the 30M posted in the Zip file. Interesting why shorting at this level/time? I have some idea's but perhaps there will come more feedback?
Interesting why shorting at this level/time? I have some idea's
And this is exactly the problem with posting a slew of images with no commentary explaining the logic and thinking that went into the decisions that were made. There is very litttle learning value in such an approach. As you stated, "I have some ideas". But somewhere within the posted material there SHOULD be the poster's explanation because more likely than not, our ideas will not match with his ideas. So then we are all creating our own pages based only on our own (poor) analysis. If the poster would include commentary, then everybody can at least understand the page as HE sees it, instead of all of us left guessing about what might have been, could have been, expected to have been . . . And from there can spring some discussion, whether it amounts to "I see it the same", or if it is along the lines of "I didn't use that part, I used this part", etc.

When you started to study calculus, did the instructor hand you a huge notebook full of new symbols, new terminology, new ideas and say, "Just read it and you will see how easy it is", or did he give you material in small parts and provide explanations and examples with commentary , and only after that check on your understanding of the small amount of material thus far introduced? It's the difference between learning to swim by the "Throw him in the deep end of the pool and if he doesn't drown, he must have learned to swim" (And likely he did not learn to swim at all, but merely learned how to survive that traumatic moment.), versus "Today we start at the shallow end of the pool where you will be introduced to some basics."
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