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Cagliostro wrote: Fri Aug 08, 2025 12:39 am Grids will sooner or later delete your account, this is a no brainer. Stuff for 100 USD accounts.
Dont I know that ? The trick is in the tier 2, increased distance spacing and sequential exits.
4 Tiers, each tier has its own settings,spacing , sequential exits and Lot sizes.

Daily volatility / vix taken into consideration for each tier exit.

Risk management and exit mechanism is 80%, indicator RSI part is only 20%.


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updowncrude wrote: Fri Aug 08, 2025 1:02 am Dont I know that ? The trick is in the tier 2, increased distance spacing and sequential exits.
4 Tiers, each tier has its own settings,spacing , sequential exits and Lot sizes.

Daily volatility / vix taken into consideration for each tier exit.

Risk management and exit mechanism is 80%, indicator RSI part is only 20%.
I've sailed those seas for a decade. The end is always the same, even if had years with algos making 300%.
There is no trick, just unmanaged risk.
"I conjure from shadows and shape fortunes from the unseen. The treasure lies hidden in plain sight, beneath the sunlight." - Cagliostro

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Cagliostro wrote: Fri Aug 08, 2025 1:37 am I've sailed those seas for a decade. The end is always the same, even if had years with algos making 300%.
There is no trick, just unmanaged risk.
"In this decade of supercomputing, you're still talking about the past. If you're approaching this with prejudice, you won’t be able to understand what I’m trying to build or the logic behind it. 20% is about indicators, and 80% is about risk management — and I’ve clearly explained what underlies the risk management part. Still, I appreciate your caution. At the end of the day, it's my money, and I don't have to prove anything to you — for God's sake."

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updowncrude wrote: Fri Aug 08, 2025 2:37 am "In this decade of supercomputing, you're still talking about the past. If you're approaching this with prejudice, you won’t be able to understand what I’m trying to build or the logic behind it. 20% is about indicators, and 80% is about risk management — and I’ve clearly explained what underlies the risk management part. Still, I appreciate your caution. At the end of the day, it's my money, and I don't have to prove anything to you — for God's sake."
That's right, it's your money, but when you post such stuff on a public forum, people read and someone with less experience than you can believe that using martingale or grids they can make easy money. There's an element of responsibility to consider before sharing something that "looks" easy and very profitable.

For everyone's benefit:

-not using a SL is gambling
-adding to a losing position is gambling, wisdom is cutting losses fast, the exact opposite
-there is no risk management with any kind of grids and martingale systems


this is not an opinion, this is math!

PS: FYK I started to code in assembly in 1981, and was a founding member of AIXIA in 1988, the Italian Association for Artificial Intelligence. More, I created the first AI driven cybersec solution in Europe in 1999 and kept working with AI for the next decades. I am not concerned about supercomputing or artificial intelligence, but more about human stupidity.
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Cagliostro wrote: Fri Aug 08, 2025 3:35 am That's right, it's your money, but when you post such stuff on a public forum, people read and someone with less experience than you can believe that using martingale or grids they can make easy money. There's an element of responsibility to consider before sharing something that "looks" easy and very profitable.

For everyone's benefit:

-not using a SL is gambling
-adding to a losing position is gambling, wisdom is cutting losses fast, the exact opposite
-there is no risk management with any kind of grids and martingale systems


Wise words and I just wanted to add some thoughts about trading these kind of martingale and 'recovery' EA setups on a live account;
More than often you will end up during news or in Asian session with your last 'recovery' orders and here brokers play their game with huge spreads / fills etc.

best M.
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