Ogee wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2024 9:45 pm No charges brought against Brand at all, just the victim of an establishment and msm smear campaign same as the majority of US voters say Trump is. If AP say it it must be true.

Criminal law generally requires proof beyond a reasonable doubt while civil law merely requires a preponderance of evidence. Also, the overwhelming majority of laws are civil laws. Therefore, the overwhelming majority of cases filed are civil cases. If you're referring to criminal charges when you say "charges," no criminal indictment is required to prosecute a civil claim. There is nothing unusual about a victim's lawyer pursuing a remedy under the lower civil threshold of proof.

The majority of U.S. voters are not lawyers and don't live in the State of New York, so they have no idea what the definitions of white collar crimes are in that jurisdiction. As I mentioned previously in this thread, I have an ABA accredited juris doctor law degree, so I understand exactly that the State of New York has successfully prosecuted hundreds of individuals and entities under the same criminal statutes that Don The Con violated. Again contrary to the narrative that Trump is pushing, there is nothing unusual about this prosecution of white collar crime. You can't apply the facts of Trump's misconduct to the laws if you don't know the precise terms of the laws. Random surveying/polling can't change that.

I should note that the ultimate trier of fact, who will be instructed about the relevant laws, is a jury of Trump's peers. If the case is as thin as the guessing members of the public believe, the jury will inevitably find out and then find Trump not guilty.

Judicial guidance from the State of New York is posted below. Prosecutor Alvin Bragg has been very clear in stating that Trump sought to commit tax and election crimes by way of Trump's intentional falsification of business records. Therefore, the natural procedure following the allegations of Bragg's criminal complaint, the grand jury indictment, and disposition of pretrial motions, is trial jury selection--which is the current status of this trial. Please feel free to read the attached guidance if you have any doubts.

Don The Con mistakes Jimmy Kimmel for Al Pacino:

Just a quick update... In Don The Con's first felony criminal trial, 2 seated jurors were dismissed this morning: 1 due to rethinking her impartiality after sleeping on it, and 1 due to MAGA media reporters publishing his name and bio which subjected him to potential threats/violence. Judge Merchan swiftly reminded all reporters that the jury is anonymous, and ordered nonpublication of juror information. This left 5 seated jurors.

This afternoon, Judge Merchan seated 7 more jurors plus 1 alternate juror. 5 more alternate jurors are needed in order to proceed. Judge Merchan hopes to seat them tomorrow, and preside over opening trial statements on Monday.

Interesting lawyer case review.

Attorneys STUN MEDIA: 'There Is No Crime' Alvin Bragg Can Charge:

Ogee wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 5:22 pm Interesting lawyer case review.

Attorneys STUN MEDIA: 'There Is No Crime' Alvin Bragg Can Charge:

Very interesting... "Doug in Exile" commenting to alleged "Patriots" about empty generalities presented on Faux News. Of course, no one cites any specific law to back up those generalities.

I should note that a criminal statute of limitations, which limits the time for filing a complaint, does not begin to run until the State becomes aware of an actual violation of criminal law. Many civilian people can, and frequently are, aware of a criminal's illegal conduct before the State's police and prosecutors become aware. Therefore, Don The Con's statute of limitations didn't begin to run when he committed the crimes--it began to run when Alvin Bragg discovered Trump crimes during the criminal investigation. The State of New York has a statute of limitations of 6 years for fraud and 5 years for other felonies (https://nycourts.gov/CourtHelp/GoingToC ... hart.shtml). Bragg filed the criminal complaint well within the statute of limitations.

Unfortunately for Trump, his arena of lies and threats (including those regurgitated by his mouthpieces) in the public sphere are completely separate from his arena of criminal prosecution. There's nothing that Trump (nor his mouthpieces) can say here nor elsewhere that will negate the crimes that he's already committed. In fact, Judge Merchan has set a criminal contempt hearing for Tuesday due to Trump's failure to keep those two arenas separate--when he barked and gestured at a prospective juror in court. Judge Merchan would be well within his authority to toss Trump in a holding cell for 30 days, even though he hasn't yet stated any desire to do so.

Doug is definitely in Exile... likey posting from his hideout in Moscow.

There's a clip of Don The Con in this video. Although I generally enjoy acting like a comedian, Trump is really just sad in the clip. He pays a young woman 6 figures to feed him exclusively Trump-positive news articles and photos, and then he stands outside of his own felony trial court while attempting to sort through the papers--showing them to the media. It reminds me of an elderly impoverished woman who cut things out from magazines and newspapers, and really believed that she owned the items in the photos.

This just in... Judge Merchan successfully seated all 12 petit jurors and all 6 alternate jurors.

Soon afterward, a man lit himself on fire in a park near the court. Sad has just turned to tragic. According to Intelligencer (https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article ... dates.html), he believed in a wide array of anti-U.S. Government conspiracy theories including some against New York University (NYU), billionaire Peter Thiel, Al Gore, G.W. Bush, Donald Trump, and Joe Biden. Please don't click on the link unless you want to see a man in flames.

Ok ok ok... Back to comedy now...

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mrtools wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 11:30 am [N]othing is funnier than your Trump derangement syndrome! I swear dude he lives in your head 24/7!

My reply:

JohnnyRy wrote: Sat Apr 20, 2024 12:37 am TOTAL WITCH-HUNT!!!

JohnnyRy wrote: Sat Apr 20, 2024 12:09 am Very interesting... "Doug in Exile" commenting to alleged "Patriots" about empty generalities presented on Faux News. Of course, no one cites any specific law to back up those generalities.

I should note that a criminal statute of limitations, which limits the time for filing a complaint, does not begin to run until the State becomes aware of an actual violation of criminal law. Many civilian people can, and frequently are, aware of a criminal's illegal conduct before the State's police and prosecutors become aware. Therefore, Don The Con's statute of limitations didn't begin to run when he committed the crimes--it began to run when Alvin Bragg discovered Trump crimes during the criminal investigation. The State of New York has a statute of limitations of 6 years for fraud and 5 years for other felonies (https://nycourts.gov/CourtHelp/GoingToC ... hart.shtml). Bragg filed the criminal complaint well within the statute of limitations.

Unfortunately for Trump, his arena of lies and threats (including those regurgitated by his mouthpieces) in the public sphere are completely separate from his arena of criminal prosecution. There's nothing that Trump (nor his mouthpieces) can say here nor elsewhere that will negate the crimes that he's already committed. In fact, Judge Merchan has set a criminal contempt hearing for Tuesday due to Trump's failure to keep those two arenas separate--when he barked and gestured at a prospective juror in court. Judge Merchan would be well within his authority to toss Trump in a holding cell for 30 days, even though he hasn't yet stated any desire to do so.

Doug is definitely in Exile... likey posting from his hideout in Moscow.

yeah thanks but I think I'll stick to listening to actual lawyers, there are some unbiased ones out there even after the Dems weaponised the justice department.