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Re: A New Trading Game (chaos game) Played for Money and Played in Risk- Free Space

Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2023 2:08 am
by Darkdoji
Another simple and general point looking at the screenshot in viewtopic.php?p=1295519022#p1295519022. Orbit screenface is in a sense pointing up and down. Think of that this way a) Price is going up really but at the time of the screenshot it was going down, i.e. following the construction of a strange attractor point to point and it is showing the stage of construction as a "saddle" after b) which it should power up to complete the black to black points which is the spike event (market clearing point). So it is describing the now and future and keeps the trader informed of the actual balance of forces in play. That is why the screenface is in Dyssynchronization giving an accurate read of the state of the system (market). The books fully explain all that explaining how market space works. The trick is to ignore our sentiments and false assumptions of how markets work and follow a logic established by an informed thesis. We cannot make the market behave as we want or think but we can learn how it behaves and follow that behaviour. So chaos theory and fractal geometry give indisputable explanations of market behaviour - these are not my ideas or my intelligence or my expertise - but a thesis established by mathematics.

The Crow (-_-)

Re: A New Trading Game (chaos game) Played for Money and Played in Risk- Free Space

Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2023 3:22 am
by mrtools
Darkdoji wrote: Sun Jul 23, 2023 2:08 am Another simple and general point looking at the screenshot in viewtopic.php?p=1295519022#p1295519022. Orbit screenface is in a sense pointing up and down. Think of that this way a) Price is going up really but at the time of the screenshot it was going down, i.e. following the construction of a strange attractor point to point and it is showing the stage of construction as a "saddle" after b) which it should power up to complete the black to black points which is the spike event (market clearing point). So it is describing the now and future and keeps the trader informed of the actual balance of forces in play. That is why the screenface is in Dyssynchronization giving an accurate read of the state of the system (market). The books fully explain all that explaining how market space works. The trick is to ignore our sentiments and false assumptions of how markets work and follow a logic established by an informed thesis. We cannot make the market behave as we want or think but we can learn how it behaves and follow that behaviour. So chaos theory and fractal geometry give indisputable explanations of market behaviour - these are not my ideas or my intelligence or my expertise - but a thesis established by mathematics.

The Crow (-_-)
Hey man glad you're better! :clap:

Re: Expiration Update

Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2023 4:35 am
by dio889
ImpLaNT wrote: Mon Jul 03, 2023 3:56 pm Hello, guys...

This is the promised Orbit update for those with expiration date issues. Samm asked me to post because he had problems connecting to the site. Just copy owerwrite existing one in Expert folder
...With gratitude and hope for his speedy recovery...


Orbit The Tool - Seal3.ex4
i have error on my mt4 uninit reason 8

i can't attach EA on chart

Re: A New Trading Game (chaos game) Played for Money and Played in Risk- Free Space

Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2023 4:53 am
by Darkdoji
I know that people have different amounts of time to trade and this issue of availability affects profitability. @"regit" explained this most clearly to me and mentioned why therefore people avoid trading the H4 Trade Frame in the books. But think about it now after the books - that is not what the dynamics of markets suggest (talking to everyone NOT @"regit"). Marked by semaphores we see an array of points of different weights at different highs and lows on that trade frame from time to time. Each translation from a seen point to a next unseen point is a trade in a time compression that accumulates the complete trades in the collective intraday cycle or space always. Therefore, it always contains the largest safe- 2-point differences in the market (no other trades but H4 trades explain the market fully at any time). So day traders miss nothing in trading H4 as they can easily see the next available translation and wait to follow on a change of signal with less confusion about direction as would appear to be at lower resolutions since the details of 3 x 4 hr bars on a lower time frame is a complete range of fluctuations. Therefore, deterministic trading is rational trading devoid of false assumptions. The intraday trader taking a 1 - 1 (white heads in a "saddle" between black arrows or other senior pivots), is taking a range trade which on H4 is the shortest of the the safest longest trades between 2 points in market space. So the day trader has a choice and can choose to trade short term or range trade anytime a tradable semaphore appears. But what stops such a trader trading a 2 (Y) if it is available in the time he has. Sure that may go 6,000 points and 2 days but when it is certain between 2 points what does it matter? People mastering chaos may need to rethink the risk and profit ideologies they have of the market and this is a serious thought because market dynamics in Orbit shows traders are not maximising profits because of the ignorance of dynamic market space. That should change reading the books, testing it and rethinking the market by it. In the books we put it more formally - "the user must move away from active risk management to active profit management when the trade risk between two points in space is always zero."

The Crow (-_-)

PS: This is a serious matter and a way to view an H4 fold in time and space. It is like a bus stop where you go and wait for the next transport to where you need to be going. The bus comes (semaphore stop and signal change), trader enters to next stop. The different weights help mark destinations. Lower time frames have pivots too and can be traded the same way because all pivots are nested. But for the same reason why not use the main bus stop - the one that is sure and direct not one that takes you to unnecessary stops (and might confuse you to get off in the wrong place). Think about it chaos describes the market in ways that help you make more sensible decisions about your money and making more money. It allows the mental space to act more in your interest than out of fear due to ignorance of market space and dynamics.

Re: Expiration Update

Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2023 4:57 am
by Darkdoji
dio889 wrote: Sun Jul 23, 2023 4:35 am i have error on my mt4 uninit reason 8

i can't attach EA on chart
download the new pack follow the instructions in it exactly.

The Crow (-_-)

Re: A New Trading Game (chaos game) Played for Money and Played in Risk- Free Space

Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2023 6:15 am
by Chickenspicy
because this is used for the 4hr i am using this dashboard to help lighten the wait and check time

Re: A New Trading Game (chaos game) Played for Money and Played in Risk- Free Space

Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2023 8:51 am
by Darkdoji
Chickenspicy wrote: Sat Jul 01, 2023 9:20 am Sorry about that i was not myself when i said that
This is probably the best thing ever created
My loss of understanding then regained it

Curry Blake is probably the best teacher on Biblical Healing
if you’re interested in that
Lets say I enjoy scalping because may be I just like the thrill of fast translations and will trade short-term moves or intraday moves depending on what is going on. Orbit is the best tool you can use if you know the logic of Orbit. That logic applies to infinity. What does that mean commonsense? a) You go to M1 and notice it is calibrated differently, because you can think of it as the unit vector. Since in a sense the linear combinations of its diagonals make up the entire market. It is also the most correct reading of market transactions at any time. So by definition it is the most exciting partition from which to scalp. b) wait for a high or a low pivot (the specified safest are an M or a G), When you see either an M or a G at low or high wait for Screenface signal, on screenface signal enter direction. BUT ON WHAT SCALE SCREENFACE SIGNAL? H4? NO. On n. When you scalp with Orbit you scale to a different space with the same shape as the rest of the market (you are trading a fractal structure they are everywhere copies of themselves). So take n in a scalp and treat it as we have described for H4 exactly. H4 and n are special and complete in themselves. Why? Because n accumulates in H4 by a pattern and also n has no imitation it is virgin and the first indication of anything at all. This pattern is nG = 5n Y(2) and nM = 6n W (1, 2 or >) and those are the limits of intraday moves in range (folding) as well as the flags in direction (breakout or stretching). So Orbit inductive signalling is calibrated exactly in n to time the evolution of its cycles and therefore there is no scalping system that can beat an Orbit scalper. You simply wait in M1 for the rated pivots and when you see one low or high you wait for (n) {Fractal Pattern, KSO, Cyclicality, Term Trade} + Orbit Spot = n Inverse On. You enter. Again no scalper can beat the Orbit scalper. You can check this out. Orbit allows you to do what you want to do in the market trading but under its rules of time and space. The logic applies across the entire market space in market time (in fractal geometry fractals go on to infinity so they talk about infinitely complex things regardless of the reality that in fact we have real number limits on earth and therefore markets). Would like to see an Orbit Scalper share experience in future.

The Crow (-_-)

PS: But do you know the secret of the accuracy of Orbit scalps? H4 pivots. The pivots in play are in the end the same as H4 pivots. M is an H4 Pivot in n because Orbit measures nested pivots. So trading n is the same as trading H4 just more detailed and as we can see from this H4 is the correct size of all market moves.

Re: A New Trading Game (chaos game) Played for Money and Played in Risk- Free Space

Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2023 9:51 am
by Darkdoji
So got to go to bed not completely ok -------------------------> but this would have been the scalp on Orbit. BTW inverse on down intraday came on about two hours before now, i.e. 6n Fractal Pattern change red).

The Crow (-_-)

Re: A New Trading Game (chaos game) Played for Money and Played in Risk- Free Space

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 2:03 pm
by Chickenspicy
first 4hr trade looks okay to me
probably should of waited for persistent series

Re: A New Trading Game (chaos game) Played for Money and Played in Risk- Free Space

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 8:55 pm
by regit
When speaking of folding and stretching, should we view the movement of a price point being the action and the change of space (folding or stretching) being the reaction, or should we view space changing (folding or stretching) as the action and the reaction the price simply carried along to a new location because the point is simply "attached" to space, similar to an inkspot placed on a rubber sheet appears to move as the sheet is deformed. If the sheet is very thin and transparent and colorless, rendering the sheet unobservable to us, then relative to the sheet, the spot is stationary but relative to an external reference that we are using, the spot moves.

And further, if the "correct" model is a fixed point on a deformable sheet, then as space stretches, does the spot increase in size and likewise decrease in size as space folds? Here, spot indicates a "point", but it cannot be the mathematical point because that point is an infinitesimal. The point must be a physical entity with an associated size.

Also, this deformable sheet with a spot fixed to it must not be confused with a deformable sheet with a spot that is free to move, similar to a marble placed on a rubber sheet.