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### Re: A New Trading Game (chaos game) Played for Money and Played in Risk- Free Space

Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2023 1:15 am
@DarkDoji
In Trading Orbit the Tool PDF, you stated that a recurrence equation enables calculating exactly the next number based on the current number. Does Orbit the Tool include recurrence calculations? If yes, then is the equation sufficiently detailed/complete such that Orbit actually does calculate the next number and it matches the number that is produced? That is, does the price "prediction" match the next price quote?

If the next number cannot be calculated exactly, does the calculated value fall within some distance from the actual value at some probability range?

### Re: A New Trading Game (chaos game) Played for Money and Played in Risk- Free Space

Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2023 2:10 am
regit wrote: Sat Apr 01, 2023 1:15 am @DarkDoji
In Trading Orbit the Tool PDF, you stated that a recurrence equation enables calculating exactly the next number based on the current number. Does Orbit the Tool include recurrence calculations? If yes, then is the equation sufficiently detailed/complete such that Orbit actually does calculate the next number and it matches the number that is produced? That is, does the price "prediction" match the next price quote?

If the next number cannot be calculated exactly, does the calculated value fall within some distance from the actual value at some probability range?
No numbers are exact in such a function and it is that exactitude that is the basis for trading Orbit correctly. Will show this clearly (i.e. in a focused way), in my weekend postings and also show why people need to keep strictly to the pattern of numbers. I find your interest in chaotic systems really interesting because you and @Manu9710 really do care about the thesis and do not want to mix things up with unrelated stuff. Love that, and you will be satisfied (will do my best to satisfy you in the planned posts), to show that it is not just the correct thing but the simplest and most profitable way to go. I think after this weekend much or most things of immediate importance to actually trading the approach profitably will become clear and we can all focus on making some money (i.e. those interested in trading by chaos). I am frustrated that what to me is so darned simple is so badly misunderstood it is now getting mixed up with all sorts - probably more confusing than helpful. But till then. Cheers

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PS: You may sometimes see me listed as present but actually am not since my browser is closed at such times though when I get back I still see I have access just so you know I did not delay to respond. Another thing is this, the basic compound interest equation is a recurrence relation and in fact I do my compound interest using the Logistic Map. That is why I cannot understand the confusion so obvious in some of the posts I now see. This thing is the simplest, most complete trading application ever. If not mixed up with any razz a learner should be making money within a week. Compound interest - anyone can see how to apply that do you not think? But as the French say C'est La Vie

### Re: A New Trading Game (chaos game) Played for Money and Played in Risk- Free Space

Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2023 6:16 am
Would like to hear the Master opinion on this one.

### Re: A New Trading Game (chaos game) Played for Money and Played in Risk- Free Space

Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2023 6:54 am
Would like to hear the Master opinion on this one.

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### Re: A New Trading Game (chaos game) Played for Money and Played in Risk- Free Space

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2023 12:33 pm
Tutorial 04: The Strange Attractor

Important to replace Orbit since this may hang less if all goes well and we would be on the same page with certain enhancements to enable us now trade this simple approach.

Cheers,

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### Re: A New Trading Game (chaos game) Played for Money and Played in Risk- Free Space

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2023 12:30 am
With respect to my last post please be clear about a few points:
i) I do not suggest that any past entry form is superseded by the n Flow Cut featured in the post.
ii) The whole basis for entry Orbit is the Inverse On command. Which is based on the notion of Cyclicality or Oscillator Synchrony (e.g. I am personally more comfortable with n - 6n Cyclicality entries).
iii) Important to see the n Flow Cut up or down as additional and there will be those who based on experience will find that it can be safely combined with change in nCyclicality in many cases.
iv) The main point of introducing it at all is to focus minds on a method that works well for when price is in FLE where price is in folding range and there are opportunities for fast trades that are short-term but that do not necessarily trigger n - 6n Cyclicality and also where because of the short range of trades, we require early but dependable responses.
v) Entry is a matter of what the individual trader is comfortable with based on experience and it is to be noted that I have up to the last post before this resisted giving step instructions for trading because and I repeat Orbit is NOT a trading system so knowing enough about how it works and in the context of your personal experience and comfort, a trader decides how and when it is desirable to play the market.

Having said the above my main attention was to bring a focus on and understanding of the meaning and importance (implications), of trading the Strange Attractor or fractal footprint. Please think deeply about that concept and how it was explained in the tutorial and indeed revisit it to gain the sense of it as presented - what was I really trying to convey? A lot in terms of success in the understanding and trading of Orbit profitably depends on this notion of the strange attractor. Please break silence on this singular concept - let us make this a general discussion because what you are looking at there is profoundly powerful and if in fact you understand what it actually is and means speak up -- do not worry whether you are wrong or right. Because if you actually understand the implications of the Strange Attractor then you qualify to declare that you have the most profitable strategy possible. However, I am not prepared to spoon-feed on this and I want us to collectively crack that code (though an open secret if you read and understand), in forum. I hope I make something very important clear. I congratulate in advance the first of us to say to us all what it means to a) have the Strange Attractor as a basic tool and b) what it therefore means to trade by the Strange Attractor and only the Strange Attractor. What do you think it means - why is it so critical and what does it do for your trading?

Cheers

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PS: It is a pattern the path of price for any cycle small or big. We have shown in the last tutorial examples of it in live trading and how it pervades all of market space. So please what can we do with it? What does it mean? What information does it provide the trader dynamically and even in static? This is the most serious thing to discuss about the tutorial - entry is in fact an aside.

### Re: A New Trading Game (chaos game) Played for Money and Played in Risk- Free Space

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2023 3:01 am
There is a Whitedoji, a friend of mine who may or may not join us formally depending on whether his application to join FS is approved subsequent to now. Attached are his example trades which will help us think about the Strange Attractor I am so keen we talk about and discuss (most critical). In any case watching the sequences of snaps does tell us a thing or two in addition to what you read and glean from my tutorial notes which I sincerely hope you will all look at to open up the desired chat we need to have over the concept, what it means to trading and trading strategy.
Cheers,
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### Re: A New Trading Game (chaos game) Played for Money and Played in Risk- Free Space

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2023 3:12 am
regit wrote: Sat Apr 01, 2023 1:15 am @DarkDoji
In Trading Orbit the Tool PDF, you stated that a recurrence equation enables calculating exactly the next number based on the current number. Does Orbit the Tool include recurrence calculations? If yes, then is the equation sufficiently detailed/complete such that Orbit actually does calculate the next number and it matches the number that is produced? That is, does the price "prediction" match the next price quote?

If the next number cannot be calculated exactly, does the calculated value fall within some distance from the actual value at some probability range?
@regit can you figure out how your question here was answered looking at the 6n,5n matched example of the Strange Attractor trading shown? Do take a look again. If not clear to you let me know.
Cheers,
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### Re: A New Trading Game (chaos game) Played for Money and Played in Risk- Free Space

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2023 3:24 am
Darkdoji wrote: Tue Apr 04, 2023 3:12 am @regit can you figure out how your question here was answered looking at the 6n,5n matched example of the Strange Attractor trading shown? Do take a look again. If not clear to you let me know.
Cheers,
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6n,5n matched example of the Strange Attractor trading shown?
Sorry, but I don't know which screen capture you mean by this.

### Re: A New Trading Game (chaos game) Played for Money and Played in Risk- Free Space

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2023 6:15 am
regit wrote: Tue Apr 04, 2023 3:24 am 6n,5n matched example of the Strange Attractor trading shown?
Sorry, but I don't know which screen capture you mean by this.
The ones starting with incomplete fractures and ending with X = Y to complete. Showing that in a homoeomorphic bijection X must equal Y to complete Up and Y must equal X to complete Down. 4 screenshots in the series. You cannot miss them.

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