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Re: A New Trading Game (chaos game) Played for Money and Played in Risk- Free Space

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2023 9:06 pm
by Darkdoji
The pattern is everything and its geometry provides us all the information we need to present its evolution accurately. Orbit follows the pattern exactly and gives the safest timings. That is what it is all about placing points here and there in space one at a time within a bounded space over time. In this understanding, this notion of trading is complete and accepts no alternative explanations to the reading and trading of markets. It is based on verifiable mathematics.

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PS: In the screenshot you observe Command Level 0 the "saddle" command. This tells you exactly when we are in FLE (This feature is missing from other versions and it is the status of 2n TT = Cy ).

Re: A New Trading Game (chaos game) Played for Money and Played in Risk- Free Space

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 2:04 am
by Darkdoji
Command Level 0 is the missing link because you already know the command for top and bottom turns. But the "Saddle" is where traders lose the most money and are in the most confusion. It is no mans land, the middle of the attractor and Command 0 + its rules guarantee your ability to read and trade this unique topology and its dynamics correctly. Assuring that you cover all the key parts of the attractor and keeps you in the money always based on your understanding, trust and full practice of the routines. It makes sure you can become by practice a fully professional class trader -------> able to grow accounts with confidence and ability over time and as you perfect your trading by Orbit. Unlike "systems" based on random rules which will cause hesitation in all FLE encounters and loss in this situation probably quite frequently (because in "systems" it depends on so called experience each time to survive a variable that is never the same form twice on any scale). In Orbit (in this version only), you are warned beforehand in enough time to take profit on initial trade and watch the evolution if you find the translations too fast or feel unready to tackle the space and whether price resumes direction or reverses the flow in such an FLE episode you have enough control to win it every time depending on how you decide to manage this specific piece of price action. This is why this version is dangerous ----------------> imagine a trader that masters all topologies with this version and imagine the power such a trader has because the point about Orbit is that the market is now fully masterable simply by following a mathematical pattern. This is the full equation implemented.

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PS: We only count on experience when it matters ---------> when past knowledge is repeatable. Experience has dubious values when it depends on random results and random rules and no confirmatory load from real knowledge of mathematics, just heuristics that may or may not work or that you never get to master 100/100 times or at least very close in your ability to execute the regimen. It is just the simple truth ------> small thing but how many can doubt the immense value in Command 0?

The idea is simple and repeats every single time and it is not magic it is math. It is sure so learning mastery is a permanent asset to a trader the basis of his growth and success. The Tool.

Re: A New Trading Game (chaos game) Played for Money and Played in Risk- Free Space

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 4:05 am
by solarian
Darkdoji wrote: Wed Oct 04, 2023 2:04 am In Orbit (in this version only), you are warned beforehand in enough time to take profit on initial trade and watch the evolution if you find the translations too fast or feel unready to tackle the space and whether price resumes direction or reverses the flow in such an FLE episode you have enough control to win it every time depending on how you decide to manage this specific piece of price action.
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In our current version, are the implementations of TT and Cyclicality different from your version? Specifically, does our version interpret a status similar to 2n TT equals Cy as indicative of a saddle point as well, possibly? Just seeking clarity on this so that we can apply your feedback and analysis to our version more accurately. This will ensure that we're making a direct and fair evaluation, akin to comparing 'Apples to Apples' and 'Oranges to Oranges'.
My version screenshot below. Thanks in adv. for your feedback and looking forward to the new features, when you get a chance to release the updates.

Re: A New Trading Game (chaos game) Played for Money and Played in Risk- Free Space

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 4:46 am
by Darkdoji
solarian wrote: Wed Oct 04, 2023 4:05 am In our current version, are the implementations of TT and Cyclicality different from your version? Specifically, does our version interpret a status similar to 2n TT equals Cy as indicative of a saddle point as well, possibly? Just seeking clarity on this so that we can apply your feedback and analysis to our version more accurately. This will ensure that we're making a direct and fair evaluation, akin to comparing 'Apples to Apples' and 'Oranges to Oranges'.
My version screenshot below. Thanks in adv. for your feedback and looking forward to the new features, when you get a chance to release the updates.
The short answer is no but I did promise to show and explain this difference.

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PS: Means some effort and more care is required to reach parity in terms of avoiding these pullback traps especially in the type of downfalling we are witnessing in Gold or similar trend up or down elsewhere.

Re: A New Trading Game (chaos game) Played for Money and Played in Risk- Free Space

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 8:00 am
by Darkdoji
So the idea was not to que up as a "system" but to introduce a timing device usable by all "systems" because Orbit logic measures to exactitudes. It finds the point of turns and not just following a trend. It is reading its distribution correctly and telling its behaviour. Allows control and knowledge of space beyond Stop Loss and TP. Allows good control over holding trades longer than a day, Risk-Free space, correct timing, exactitudes and a lot more ------------> who knows what else traders can make it do or become. The knowledge needs to be general but acknowledged for what it is----------->The mathematics of complex dynamical systems. That is what markets are ----------> Complex Dynamical Systems, and should be getting far more academic attention in that sense than it is getting just now. We hope that will change.

The Crow (_-_) Inverted

Re: A New Trading Game (chaos game) Played for Money and Played in Risk- Free Space

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 8:11 am
by Darkdoji
solarian wrote: Wed Oct 04, 2023 4:05 am In our current version, are the implementations of TT and Cyclicality different from your version? Specifically, does our version interpret a status similar to 2n TT equals Cy as indicative of a saddle point as well, possibly? Just seeking clarity on this so that we can apply your feedback and analysis to our version more accurately. This will ensure that we're making a direct and fair evaluation, akin to comparing 'Apples to Apples' and 'Oranges to Oranges'.
My version screenshot below. Thanks in adv. for your feedback and looking forward to the new features, when you get a chance to release the updates.
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Lets be clear there is nothing mine can do that yours cannot do. It depends on you exactly and how you understand the logic and use it. The same calculations and logic define both. I varied the the base and will vary it some more for the cloud. What and how mine reads requires less work and certain other functions that help. But can only work in the Cloud where I have control so cause we do not know what happens to the sort of winning rates that I think is possible across traders (rated non winners at 5% and others who join the party). So it depends on you and it is not about indicators etc it is logic the way markets work. I hope you hear me. Just a thought.

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PS: The good thing is that folks are free to trade it directly, like live mirror trading following its cues. Indeed and as you can see yourself we are reading the same exact scene more or less.

Re: A New Trading Game (chaos game) Played for Money and Played in Risk- Free Space

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 8:31 am
by solarian
Darkdoji wrote: Wed Oct 04, 2023 8:11 am Lets be clear there is nothing mine can do that yours cannot do. It depends on you exactly and how you understand the logic and use it. The same calculations and logic define both.
Thank you for clarifying. Since the underlying calculations and logic are same between both versions, then I'm confident in the accuracy and fidelity of the results between your version and ours. I understand that your cloud version may have more streamlined features, like consolidated alerts or indicators to more efficient visual cues. For instance, while we might analyze 7 distinct cues, you've optimized it to focus on a summarized set, perhaps just 3 key cues, along with other visual enhancements.

Re: A New Trading Game (chaos game) Played for Money and Played in Risk- Free Space

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2023 3:33 am
by Darkdoji
solarian wrote: Wed Oct 04, 2023 8:31 am Thank you for clarifying. Since the underlying calculations and logic are same between both versions, then I'm confident in the accuracy and fidelity of the results between your version and ours. I understand that your cloud version may have more streamlined features, like consolidated alerts or indicators to more efficient visual cues. For instance, while we might analyze 7 distinct cues, you've optimized it to focus on a summarized set, perhaps just 3 key cues, along with other visual enhancements.
The Zero Command
So what does it do? The Zero Command informs you in laminar flow or in fact in any flow so that you know to a) Take Profit on you last level 1 CMD in direction. b) that You will next enter the FLE which means further chaos intermittency and this means in the math what is called Initial Conditions (the butterfly effect), which I do not trade ---> trades too fast (translation speeds are exponential in very short bursts - I do not like that kind of price action. Regardless there are cowboys that will trade it because it is tradable by Orbit and quick money can be made in very tight risk free spaces.
And on Global Inverse On ----> must you trade. If you trade Global Inverse on note its colours all light red is reversible, all DarkOrchid is trend (going down), and (going up), all Green is reversible and Gold /Green is trend. all different hues together show the pullback indications for the each trend colour. Reversibility does NOT mean weakness it means a begin.
For "technical" types who cannot get the false notion of time frame off of their minds, if you trade 5n inverse on then note that unless the move is in direct support of a 6n move it is for very short ranges. But may also precede a 6n trigger. Finally, the Zero command is a whole command structure and it holds enough secrets for people to discover different uses for the structure. I think for instance those in love with pullback trading. But of course @Meyney is the expert that way and he may or may not agree. But just a thought.

The Crow (-_-)

Re: A New Trading Game (chaos game) Played for Money and Played in Risk- Free Space

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2023 4:31 am
by Darkdoji
Look at the screenshot a) Command zero was correct. b) one of many advantages is it gives you time the time to plot your attack rationally and do stuff like sort out how much to stake given no risk, ETC c) You know what to do where because you can workout if this is a bottom quickly and while FLE holds d) You have control and signals that are not a maybe and even when you miss a breakout (too scared to believe your eyes), the command 1 structure is defined on a the largest move available in any given asset and lasts days. You can follow Orbit learning but still winning. GENTLEMEN IT IS NOT YOUR FAULT to be blamed for making trader errors AS NOT EVEN THE BEST RACING DRIVER CAN WIN IF HE HAS NO CONTROL. nOW yOU gOT CONTROL ----------------------> TRADE. YOU ARE FAR MORE LIKELY TO WIN THAN LOSE BY ORBIT. But Control comes from learning the dynamics not some special other reason about you or how you think there is only a single solution in trading. Chaos!

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nOTHING IS USELESS ON SCREENFACE IN THE SCREENSHOT LOOK AT THE ORDINALS THINK HOW THEY BEHAVE WHEN AND WHERE? And BTW you can wait to take profit in FLE? Also you ask and answers for yourself why? Man you guys trading Orbit I do not what excuse you can now make?

Re: A New Trading Game (chaos game) Played for Money and Played in Risk- Free Space

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2023 4:46 am
by Darkdoji
THERE IS PLENTY MORE TO COME AND YOU NOW BEGIN TO SEE WHY ONLY THE CLOUD CAN ENHANCE AND CONTAIN ALL THE HOWS AND WHATS WE INTEND. tO CHANGE THE WAY TRADING IS DONE FOREVER.

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