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Re: A New Trading Game (chaos game) Played for Money and Played in Risk- Free Space

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2023 12:21 am
by Darkdoji
As we turn remember this drawing -----------------> page 12. The Dynamic of Cy = TTo is not straightforward there is a "saddle" that confirms it to be true. Otherwise it is false. They are also the basic trade setups in Orbit. Look at the dynamic on the drawing to the point marked Phase-Lock that is confirmation. Try to understand this drawing without any remarks from me beyond this. Lest I offend @ImpLaNT with the type of speak he does not like. But to be frank I struggle too. How do you express mathematical concepts in trading? Especially when the concepts relate to trading HOW? I really struggle. But we will get there. Page 12 though is critical to understand. It is the Strange Attractor -----------------> the path ---------------> The Orbit of price and therefore the pattern.

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When you hear fractal it means every time frame behaves the same. It is a single point moving across different perspectives and a single point can only have a single path.

Re: A New Trading Game (chaos game) Played for Money and Played in Risk- Free Space

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2023 12:26 am
by Dave111
Axell-fx wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2023 11:42 pm Los jueves son mis días de nervios jajaja yo de compras y orbita furiosa en venta jajaja :sweat:

Will it be a simple reversal or much more than that...? :think:


Hi, you may be very lucky this time off support but you have absolutely NO buy signals from Orbit. I am still waiting for entry.
Davie

Re: A New Trading Game (chaos game) Played for Money and Played in Risk- Free Space

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2023 12:29 am
by Chickenspicy
In the research of stock market in China, the
most commonly used theory is chaos theory. The
so-called chaos refers to a seemingly irregular and
random phenomenon in the deterministic system.31
Chaos is not a simple disorder, but has no obvious
period and symmetry. It has an ordered structure
with rich internal levels. It is a new form of existence
in nonlinear systems. The main definitions of
chaos theory are as follows.
First, V is set as a compact metric space. In this
case, it is assumed that V satisfies the following
conditions:
(1) Sensitive dependence on initial value: If there is
σ, any ε > 0 and x ∈ V , there is y and natural
logarithm n in the field of x, which make:
d(fn(x), fn(y)) > δ. (45)
(2) Topological transitivity: for any pair of open
sets X and Y on V , there is k > 0, which make:
fk(X) ∩ Y = ∅. (46)
According to the above conditions, the sensitive
dependence on the initial value means that no matter
how close x and y are, their orbits may be far
apart under the action of f. In the vicinity of each
point x, the point y which is very close to it but
finally separated can be found. Based on the above
situation, if the orbit of f is calculated by computer,
any small initial error will lead to the failure of the
calculation results after several iterations.


What do you think about this statement DarkDoji? I read it somewhere along Gaussian research

Re: A New Trading Game (chaos game) Played for Money and Played in Risk- Free Space

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2023 12:33 am
by Darkdoji
Axell-fx wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2023 11:42 pm Los jueves son mis días de nervios jajaja yo de compras y orbita furiosa en venta jajaja :sweat:

Will it be a simple reversal or much more than that...? :think:

too calm scares :D I feel like I'm on the wrong side
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An amazing trader he flows so well he has become the pattern. Simply amazing absolutely not in this world. Tell us how you do it so we too can learn and be like you especially if you are routinely this calm.

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Re: A New Trading Game (chaos game) Played for Money and Played in Risk- Free Space

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2023 1:04 am
by Darkdoji
Chickenspicy wrote: Fri Sep 22, 2023 12:29 am In the research of stock market in China, the
most commonly used theory is chaos theory. The
so-called chaos refers to a seemingly irregular and
random phenomenon in the deterministic system.31
Chaos is not a simple disorder, but has no obvious
period and symmetry. It has an ordered structure
with rich internal levels. It is a new form of existence
in nonlinear systems. The main definitions of
chaos theory are as follows.
First, V is set as a compact metric space. In this
case, it is assumed that V satisfies the following
conditions:
(1) Sensitive dependence on initial value: If there is
σ, any ε > 0 and x ∈ V , there is y and natural
logarithm n in the field of x, which make:
d(fn(x), fn(y)) > δ. (45)
(2) Topological transitivity: for any pair of open
sets X and Y on V , there is k > 0, which make:
fk(X) ∩ Y = ∅. (46)
According to the above conditions, the sensitive
dependence on the initial value means that no matter
how close x and y are, their orbits may be far
apart under the action of f. In the vicinity of each
point x, the point y which is very close to it but
finally separated can be found. Based on the above
situation, if the orbit of f is calculated by computer,
any small initial error will lead to the failure of the
calculation results after several iterations.


What do you think about this statement DarkDoji? I read it somewhere along Gaussian research
Same things we have been saying here except here he is speaking to the highly informed and listed 2 of the 3 properties that define chaos in a system. I talk about topological mixing here a lot which is also called topological transitivity. But he left out a third key definition the density of orbits and not so sure he stressed "the butterfly effect" which is what we did with Orbit ------> take it out so we know when.

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Re: A New Trading Game (chaos game) Played for Money and Played in Risk- Free Space

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2023 1:06 am
by Chickenspicy
Darkdoji wrote: Fri Sep 22, 2023 1:04 am Same things we have saying here except here he is speaking to the highly informed and listed 2 of the 3 properties that define chaos in a system. I talk about topological mixing here a lot which is also called topological transitivity. But he left out a third key definition the density of orbits and not so sure he stressed "the butterfly effect" which is what we did with Orbit ------> take it out so we know when.

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okay :thumbup:

Re: A New Trading Game (chaos game) Played for Money and Played in Risk- Free Space

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2023 1:15 am
by RollerAndTrading
I guys, i hope this help to something.





Don´t recorded over night because i need keep computer recording another thing, i recorded XAUUSD in backtesting using my own xard version starting on Fev2023, until yesterday if someone interested too please let me know to upload.

Re: A New Trading Game (chaos game) Played for Money and Played in Risk- Free Space

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2023 1:18 am
by Axell-fx
Dave111 wrote: Fri Sep 22, 2023 12:26 am
@Dave111

It was an ironic message, trying to be funny in the way that Orbit had all its commands in red and me doing the opposite but it doesn't mean that I didn't follow Orbit.

Remember that Orbit Tool is not an indicator but a coworker that you can trust where its calculation is based on an equation that provides operations 100/100 times correct.
Although Orbit also serves as a commercial strategy.
But I have my working system, and Orbit I use them separately... Orbit is my faithful companion when it comes to trading to know how the market is doing from its solid point of view and helps me make better decisions from its point of view . . . mathematical and empirical. . I just saw an opportunity and took it and now I wait until Orbit supports me and changes the commands in my favor. Otherwise I'll wait for my system and Orbit to agree to put in an entry...

Sorry for my translation... I hope you understand me...

Greetings and success.

Re: A New Trading Game (chaos game) Played for Money and Played in Risk- Free Space

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2023 1:22 am
by Darkdoji
Chickenspicy wrote: Fri Sep 22, 2023 12:29 am
But you know what we cannot do two things at a time --------------------------------> Lets keep to trading and trading alone. You have issues with chaos PM me and if I have that time we can talk.

Cheers,

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Re: A New Trading Game (chaos game) Played for Money and Played in Risk- Free Space

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2023 1:32 am
by Darkdoji
RollerAndTrading wrote: Fri Sep 22, 2023 1:15 am I guys, i hope this help to something.





Don´t recorded over night because i need keep computer recording another thing, i recorded XAUUSD in backtesting using my own xard version starting on Fev2023, until yesterday if someone interested too please let me know to upload.
Help me understand --------------> you mentioned back-testing how can you back test something that is not an EA? Important do not ignore to respond. Thanks

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