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Re: A New Trading Game (chaos game) Played for Money and Played in Risk- Free Space

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2023 10:54 am
by Darkdoji
Chickenspicy wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2023 10:51 am Are the flow orbs calculated via kso exhaustion?
Which are the orbs?

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Re: A New Trading Game (chaos game) Played for Money and Played in Risk- Free Space

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2023 10:56 am
by Chickenspicy
Darkdoji wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2023 10:54 am Which are the orbs?

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These ones
Not sure if time or distance or what is causing them to change

Re: A New Trading Game (chaos game) Played for Money and Played in Risk- Free Space

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2023 11:36 am
by Darkdoji
Chickenspicy wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2023 10:56 am These ones
Not sure if time or distance or what is causing them to change
They are Ordinals showing the order of pivoting for the various terms S, M, etc. They indicate the order of pivoting following a stop going up or down and are driven by Fractal Pattern. So for instance we now have an Aqua S because the intraday cycle pivoted at an A (3) High which going down to an A (3) Low will pattern such that we will have Blackheads and whiteheads before we reach an A (3) Low therefore notifying the current pivot weight and direction in play for the short-term flow in this example as we go. In addition, when a term is in range you will see them show double arrows and their relevant order up/down or down/up and when the term is trending you will see the "orbs" display a single pointed arrow as S has been in Gold since it turned down, etc.

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Re: A New Trading Game (chaos game) Played for Money and Played in Risk- Free Space

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2023 11:55 am
by Chickenspicy
Darkdoji wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2023 11:36 am
What is the fourth orb below those on the left?
L+1
Is it the combined weight?

Re: A New Trading Game (chaos game) Played for Money and Played in Risk- Free Space

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2023 12:24 pm
by ImpLaNT
Darkdoji wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2023 11:36 am

Let's look at these elements of the screenface in more detail... From what I read above, do I understand correctly that the S ordinal is oriented by H4 (6n) TF, M by D1 (7n) TF, L by W1 (8n) TF and, accordingly, L+1 is MN1 (9n)TF ??

Re: A New Trading Game (chaos game) Played for Money and Played in Risk- Free Space

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2023 1:57 pm
by ImpLaNT
Trying to trade the upward pullback on Gold
Analysis... As the TT section shows, the flow in 7n still upward and open. I see that 6n is red and closed, which gives me the opportunity to assume that 6n is in the stage of a downward correction. Look at KSO - we see the same picture... 7n is green and confidently at the top, 6n in the range zone, n-5n is all below and green, which makes it possible to assume that the first part of the 5n attractor has been formed and an upward pullback should develop.
Entering a position (base)...
1 - KSO n-5n all below and green
2 - in the Fractal Patterns section we see that 5n has begun to pullback upward (as indicated by the red dot - the direction of the trend (down) and the light green arrow - the direction of the moment in the partition (up)
3 - all three first partitions (n-3n) have an upward trend
4 - cyclicality appeared in the upward flow of the n partition (n TT(o)+n Cy +n OA)
5 - SA is directed up, there is no risk of opening upward position at the moment.

Re: A New Trading Game (chaos game) Played for Money and Played in Risk- Free Space

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2023 3:16 pm
by Axell-fx
I have been educating myself well on the topic at hand, learning more about Chaos, Mandelbrot's work, Hurst's methods, Fourier algorithms, etc...

I published very good material to continue learning.

viewtopic.php?t=8428038&start=80

I want to revive the original topic where Mr. @Darkdoji started this entire Mathematical revolution :-), to which he dedicates a large part of his life... and by the way, thank him for sharing his ideas and for giving me another perspective. about my retail career...thank you.

@DarkDoji
@ImpLaNT
@Chickenspicy

Please, if at any time you could recommend or share an academic article or anything else that I have already read that goes in this direction, I would appreciate it...

Greetings and success.... :)

Re: A New Trading Game (chaos game) Played for Money and Played in Risk- Free Space

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2023 4:25 pm
by sal
ImpLaNT wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2023 1:57 pm Trying to trade the upward pullback on Gold
Analysis... As the TT section shows, the flow in 7n still upward and open. I see that 6n is red and closed, which gives me the opportunity to assume that 6n is in the stage of a downward correction. Look at KSO - we see the same picture... 7n is green and confidently at the top, 6n in the range zone, n-5n is all below and green, which makes it possible to assume that the first part of the 5n attractor has been formed and an upward pullback should develop.
Entering a position (base)...
1 - KSO n-5n all below and green
2 - in the Fractal Patterns section we see that 5n has begun to pullback upward (as indicated by the red dot - the direction of the trend (down) and the light green arrow - the direction of the moment in the partition (up)
3 - all three first partitions (n-3n) have an upward trend
4 - cyclicality appeared in the upward flow of the n partition (n TT(o)+n Cy +n OA)
5 - SA is directed up, there is no risk of opening upward position at the moment.

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nice request... and i learn from these points faster instead of book present :thumbup:
bro.
what all the points needs to look to take an entry for up or down..
can you point out same as you explain..
author is still leaning the right entry point, otherwise your method presentation will post.

Re: A New Trading Game (chaos game) Played for Money and Played in Risk- Free Space

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2023 5:08 pm
by Darkdoji
Dave111 wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2023 8:57 am Referring to my trade I posted earlier, breakout was long before n to 7n went to orange on the KSO. When all 6 or more partitions are at max then you should be looking to exit trade.If the market is trying to get to some level then,correct me if I am wrong, then there should be still some room to play with. But if you ever have all 9 partitions at orange top or purple bottom then exit immediately as this will be a major turning point. See my post 25th January #169 (don't know how to post link)for a screenshot of this when it happened and if you look back your chart then market stopped dead at this point.
Entry today small range, Orbit arrow down, range arrow mixed, initial value down, term trades arrow down but first 8 cyclicality all green indicating a pullback was in play with KSO all mixed up.I had just began realising the market was turning and about to go up when all of a sudden Orbit lit up like a Chrtismas tree so easy entry did not hesitate and just watch KSO doing it's thing.
Hope this helps others as well.

Davie
Hey @Dave 111 I just woke up and you were first on my mind as I needed to clarify that my statement here viewtopic.php?p=1295523891&sid=442040f7 ... 1295523891 concerning "forecasting" was not in any sense directed at your call with respect to D1 A(3). That is not "forecasting" in my books as you are very clear how you use Orbit and we all do what you did there and absolutely nothing wrong with it in my book. Just in case you or anyone misunderstood. I was just very happy yesterday and saying following Orbit in the end is clearly rewarding whether or not we get our expectations right. was when I woke that it hit me you or others may misconstrue my statement as directed at you because I mentioned your call in the body of my post but I hope it is clear if so.

Cheers

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Re: A New Trading Game (chaos game) Played for Money and Played in Risk- Free Space

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2023 5:09 pm
by ImpLaNT
sal wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2023 4:25 pm what all the points needs to look to take an entry for up or down..
can you point out same as you explain..
author is still leaning the right entry point, otherwise your method presentation will post.
Sorry, I didn't quite understand this...