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(Triggers)
By the Spot trade i mean Kso 5-6n
Dynamics are just added flavor to the Kso i guess

(Trend Shift)
5n cy could mean change in 6tt - 6 cy reverse
But it isn't an entry in the direction of 6 tt - 6 cy

It cannot be dumbed down any lower

Dear Darkdoji,

I made a Sell transaction at samophe 1W (picture below), at that time I was at FLE (-) and 6n:TTo+ Cy= Red, RA+OA Red. However, after that I went out and when I returned, the order was in a negative state, now the price has gone up, 6n: TTo+Cy has changed color, the direction of the diagonal has also changed. I want to ask:
1. Early recognition of changes in 6n (diagonal line, RA+OA)
2. Delete the old Sell order? because the Up diagonal has formed, 6n Inverse ON
3. Still holding old Sell and waiting for 6n: TTo+Cy=Red, return to orbit and add a new Sell order? (In my mind, I'm waiting for the 6n@TT Open and looking for the 2Y stop and BUY)
I still don't have an optimal screen reading plan to prevent the 6n diagonal from changing too quickly like in this case!
Thank you for this work and tool! Sorry for my En.

lotte68 wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2023 7:01 pm Dear Darkdoji,

I made a Sell transaction at samophe 1W (picture below), at that time I was at FLE (-) and 6n:TTo+ Cy= Red, RA+OA Red. However, after that I went out and when I returned, the order was in a negative state, now the price has gone up, 6n: TTo+Cy has changed color, the direction of the diagonal has also changed. I want to ask:
1. Early recognition of changes in 6n (diagonal line, RA+OA)
2. Delete the old Sell order? because the Up diagonal has formed, 6n Inverse ON
3. Still holding old Sell and waiting for 6n: TTo+Cy=Red, return to orbit and add a new Sell order? (In my mind, I'm waiting for the 6n@TT Open and looking for the 2Y stop and BUY)
I still don't have an optimal screen reading plan to prevent the 6n diagonal from changing too quickly like in this case!
Thank you for this work and tool! Sorry for my En.

If I understand you correctly then I agree you should hold until Y(2) low. Either to gain full recovery on the negative sell or seriously minimize the loss on it as price returns to a low Y(2). Also means, you can trade down like you say on that return leg which should be profitable in whole to further reduce the final loss (if at all) on the initial sell where you do not gain full recovery on the return flow. In the end I think your position seems quite positive especially because you did not use a tight stop and relied on Market Stop = 0 (per page 12). But note that the rise may still nudge the Y(2) high to about 1935 before turning lower. Any analysis of the future is of course speculative to a large extent so watch the signs. You appear to be a really cool headed trader to have worked all of this out despite the adverse excursion you are suffering on the sell. But you clearly understand cyclicality well. Cheers

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ImpLaNT wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2023 10:14 am Samm, calm down. No one is going to hack you (at least from my side ). This is a very difficult job, especially considering the weight (size) of your advisor... Nobody wants to tinker with almost a megabyte of decompiled code. In addition, it will be almost impossible to understand the principle of operation and structure of your mathematics after decompilation. The coder can logically determine which block of code is responsible for what, but I think this is impossible to directly subtract mathematical equations from the code.
......And why do this?

Not talking to you personally but you have scared me with what you say your coder can do ---------->if he can do as you say with code then I am saying many coders can do same. I do not understand anything about breaking .ex4 (wish I knew as much as you), so all sorts of things have gone off in my head. But what I do not understand is also that we cannot take metaquotes on their word.Because they are promoting the idea that no one can break .ex4 now but the word on the street and from traders of experience like you I hear "thats not true" so I am naturally confused. Can anyone say more on the metaquotes claim? Would really like to know how safe .ex4 is from being cracked.

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Or point me to a thread in the station where it is discussed?

ImpLaNT wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2023 11:01 am Tomorrow is a new trading week. What do you think, Master, will the 1930 level for gold hold? At the moment, my version of reading the space is that 1930 completes the FLE on D1 TF. We have not matching between the semaphores on these timeframes (last 7n y(2) not equal 8n w(1), which should be resolved by a price move down below the 1884 level in long term perspective. But we have the complete matching n-7n for downward moving. What do you think?

Yes @Davie T1 has attracted full focus on that fact of D1 FLE and I am looking at the same thing as you. Hard to decide but the following are the facts according to the OrbitRule Book (in FLE).

a) Whiteheads call Whiteheads
b) Whiteheads promote Blackheads
c) Plus as you have observed there is unbalance in 8n.

I do not wish to give the impression that somehow I know all future I DO NOT. So given the above how would you read it? My expectations of course are that White calls White implies a drop after may be a nudge up to circa 1935 then a rotation to a Whitehead low. Given the unbalance in 8n do not know and cannot say whether or not such a move will promote the Blackhead at D1 low, lower and further I am frustrated by the fact that below that Blackhead low in D1 is an A (3) which I cannot say is complete. But one expectation overrules, the Blackhead high in 6n should make an equal low touch whether going down or up (supporting the Whitehead call in D1). So I would say lets watch for that move and take it from there. How about that? Whatever happens it is easier and more accurate to dynamics live so frankly this is not a forecast.

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PS: @Davie 111 = @Davie T1 for tipple 1

Darkdoji wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2023 8:43 pm

What exactly scares you so much??? Anything can be hacked, the question is, does it make any sense? And is the “game worth the candle”? I already said that decompiling is not a problem, there are many utilities for this. The huge problem is then sorting out the resulting mess. I don't know if you've ever seen what decompiled code looks like... To say that it looks completely different from the source code is to say nothing. You need a huge amount of experience and probably also some talent in the form of a certain mindset in order to somehow logically compare this and understand where and which pieces of this mess are responsible for what. In short, it's very difficult. As I told you, if you ask him to do something with the source code, it will take 2 hours, and these 2 hours will also include setting up the problem. If we give the ex4 version instead of the source code, then completing the same task will take a week or more. You can compare where it’s 2 hours and where it’s a week... That is, it’s very difficult and plus, he really doesn’t like doing this kind of thing because it’s hard and tedious. So stop thinking about it. As you know, there are hacked versions of absolutely any commercial software in the world, no matter how complex it is and no matter what protections they come up with - everything cracking. But no one guarantees the stable performance of hacked versions.

ImpLaNT wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2023 11:38 pm What exactly scares you so much??? Anything can be hacked, the question is, does it make any sense? And is the “game worth the candle”? I already said that decompiling is not a problem, there are many utilities for this. The huge problem is then sorting out the resulting mess. I don't know if you've ever seen what decompiled code looks like... To say that it looks completely different from the source code is to say nothing. You need a huge amount of experience and probably also some talent in the form of a certain mindset in order to somehow logically compare this and understand where and which pieces of this mess are responsible for what. In short, it's very difficult. As I told you, if you ask him to do something with the source code, it will take 2 hours, and these 2 hours will also include setting up the problem. If we give the ex4 version instead of the source code, then completing the same task will take a week or more. You can compare where it’s 2 hours and where it’s a week... That is, it’s very difficult and plus, he really doesn’t like doing this kind of thing because it’s hard and tedious. So stop thinking about it. As you know, there are hacked versions of absolutely any commercial software in the world, no matter how complex it is and no matter what protections they come up with - everything cracking. But no one guarantees the stable performance of hacked versions.

Think what we are talking about ---------------> to release the version I use or not? I am scared of the loss of control and therefore responsibility. You said yourself it is dangerous. If in fact I knew enough about how protected .ex4 is then of course I would not be scared and know what to do. I am scared because I am ignorant. Now if we had a coder on the thread willing to explain what is and what is not possible then I can decide but you are not a coder and I am not so yes I hear you but I am also thinking what if he is wrong? Would have been nice to know that yes metaquotes is spot on and .ex4 cannot be broken from when they said so because I know that before that it was a real problem then I will release my version tomorrow. That is my problem. I have complete Ignorance of the facts. Hope you understand.

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Darkdoji wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2023 11:59 pm
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I think that we need to move on in accordance with your plan and not succumb to any temptations or external irritants. You had a plan for you on how to proceed from start to finish? Follow this plan... You wanted to give new commands, if I understood you correctly...

Darkdoji wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2023 11:59 pm Think what we are talking about ---------------> to release the version I use or not? I am scared of the loss of control and therefore responsibility. You said yourself it is dangerous. If in fact I knew enough about how protected .ex4 is then of course I would not be scared and know what to do. I am scared because I am ignorant. Now if we had a coder on the thread willing to explain what is and what is not possible then I can decide but you are not a coder and I am not so yes I hear you but I am also thinking what if he is wrong? Would have been nice to know that yes metaquotes is spot on and .ex4 cannot be broken from when they said so because I know that before that it was a real problem then I will release my version tomorrow. That is my problem. I have complete Ignorance of the facts. Hope you understand.

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Mr. Dark, let me tell you that I very much agree with Mr. impLaNT...
I have some experience in reverse engineering, it is my hobby and any system can be broken, in fact even Windows itself, every update they make, there is a hacker who breaks it. the next day, but that is not the case with mt4 or mt5. Nowadays there is no type of reverse engineering capable of breaking mt4 or mt5...although there is no shortage of talented hackers)...
The fact is that it is not the extension that breaks but the program that compiles it in this case mt4 and it is quite exhausting, it requires time and knowledge perhaps more or equal to what it took you to understand how chaos theory is applied. to the financial markets, so don't worry, I don't think anyone can... .
But they will try, don't hesitate....
My humble advice is to remove the older builds and leave only the updated ones because as time goes by, technology advances and [.ex4] files that may not be able to be decompiled today, could be decompiled tomorrow. "Better safe than sorry"

This is my first comment since I joined the forum. I don't have much free time but I noticed his understandable concern since it is his work and study life, so I decided to respond and calm him down.

You don't have to believe me, but I'm just trying to help...
I hope you understand my translation...
health and blessings...

Hi Samm
Just got back from my weekend away and catching up with a lot of posts, thanks for the kind words by the way.
Been reading about your idea with your version of Orbit, why not just relay entries in real time by say PM, to someone all the doubters would trust, maybe Jimmy(site owner) or Mr Tools etc who if they are willing can then post after a period of time for them all to check times, dates, prices. You have nothing to prove to me or ImpLaNT but as the trades cannot be scaled in MT4 then I really don't see if that would help much.
I have been thinking of maybe posting trades along with ImpLaNT and we could work together with you pointing out things we might have missed. It could help me and anyone else willing to learn how to see how the market really works with the nested pivots, which I am only now beginning to see, and how Orbit tracks it.
Later I will post an observation I was watching on the KSO with Fridays gold trade, it will be no surprise to you, but fascinating to see and if anyone had screenshots or were looking then it was plain to see.

Davie