So another trade and this time from last week. But the point I want to make here is simply how the mathematics does take care if things for us so we do not worry about risk and focus more on profit maximization. There is to be no consideration for “fundamental” or “technical” analysis when trading by chaos. When you do by bringing “technical” tools or “fundamental” concepts you will introduce errors and at exponential rates of change errors multiply by exponential speeds.
1. Look at where the week began last week. It was a week in which we had various events supposedly good/bad for Gold and the “conventional wisdom” in trading before chaotic analysis came into existence is that “news” and “events” move price. In fact I recall @josi say to me something to the effect of “if the news flow were different the flow or trend would be different” with respect to a comment made regarding the screenshot of my weekly plan. But we all agree that mathematics does not lie. What you see is what you get.
2. This is what mathematics says of chaotic space – “In mathematics, computer science and physics, a deterministic system is a system in which no randomness is involved in the development of future states of the system. A deterministic model will thus always produce the same output from a given starting condition or initial state.” Wikipedia
3. And we say that the market is a deterministic system. This means that the pattern or the market equation on which Orbit runs admits no randomness because it is the same equation that drives markets. So please observe my trades from slides one to three. This was an event day I think (I never check because I understand the meaning of the mathematical statement above and do not care what event is ahead since I am trading by Orbit). I understand that the signals and setup always reflect the trajectory of price exactly and that Orbit would not indicate as it does if it was not certain on the diagonal it is trading. And the diagonal is down TT = Cy = Red = down spot trend (high pivots in the FLE translate price lower).
4. Having no worries then about any surprises I woke up late on the day and could not take the up trade and in any case I knew I was missing nothing because i) Risk-Free space is negative and since market fractals are affine, price going up is counter cycle and counter cyclic moves in that space pay less than cycle so you can see I ignored trading until slide 2 when the cycle was on my side. As you can see the translation was pretty straight forward. But again the most important thing is the logic. I was trading the logic. A) Risk-Free Space was on my side, B) the nested structure of Orbit signals was on my side i.e. Level 1 (Cy = TT) and level 2 (Spot Arrow + Range Arrow) + Inverse on sign all agreed and was very clear what to do ----------> news or no news, event or no event Orbit is always correct because the market equation is always true.
5. We encourage people to think about the logic and its meaning of the things we say about space etc. Without understanding them and just trading signals blindly will lead you nowhere. The market is not stupid – why should it reward a lazy mind. Knowing the logic is the only thing that can give you confidence. Yes it may not be the same as you are used to e.g. where someone says to you when MACD is like this and price is like that enter. That is highly speculative and you will not win always. In deterministic trading we expect to win each trade simply because in fact we rely on solid science. But without understanding the logic or the science we are trading we become error prone and lose often.

The Crow (-_-)

PS: Look at the setup in Orbit and tell me how you can possibly go wrong going up or down in a space so well defined? Just one thing – tell me?

A discussion on time frames and how to analyse trades by time frame

Whether you are a scalper (in trading scalpers are traditionally people who do not know what the “trend” is and just gamble on short-term moves speculatively – of course everyone scalps every once in a while). But beside scalpers, whether you are a person expert in pullback “systems,” or someone employing “trend” following or harmonics or anything at all you can think of in trading, you will still find Orbit Logic absolutely indispensable.
Below I show the same trade from different perspectives H1 and H4 in order to make an important point about time frames and momentum. First, understand that partitions are important for the property measured by what is called lacunarity in fractal geometry which is crudely the density of fractures in space. We use this in Orbit and especially the Cloud Version to do some amazing analysis of real-time market movement and ignore the notion of time frames completely hence partitions n – 9n which you are free to think of as time frames but that is not exactly correct as they are slightly different but in ways too complex to explain here.
But time frames are not special or distinct as many think generally. This is because in fact the idea of time frames is meaningless when you trade by the mathematics of markets because you trade a single sequence on a single strange attractor one phase (of a parabola), at a time. This is where the misunderstanding comes in on the part of those not relying on science ------> they do not or cannot understand that simple mathematical statement because to understand you MUST investigate what is a sequence (which of course is just primary or may be secondary school mathematics if I recall correctly)? But it is absolutely critical for its truth and for how to manage trading space as a result and therefore understand time and the timing of safe and effective moves in trading.
So in Orbit and in order to be SAFE and SURE in trading, you want to trade ONLY when a signal has full momentum on its side. You can only have full momentum on the side of any given signal when the intraday cycle is engaged. Lacunarity evolves in complex ways across fractured space and the pattern of the density fractures is somewhat aperiodic and difficult to pin down. What am I saying? I am saying that when you have a “system” based on M15 or M5 or M30 or H1 or D1 or any other time frame apart from H4 your signals will be mistimed and occur too frequently with most not having follow through and therefore you would (certainly) make losses because they will lack cohesion and momentum that is even most of the time and will deliver only when the intraday cycle 6n is engaged. No time frame has a character of its own the character of a flow belongs in a single sequence and all sequences are correctly measured ONLY by 6n. Look at time frame densities less than H4 in history to see what I mean. They only become dense when 6n is involved otherwise most other times the space is thinned out and spaced in very short choppy movements (a lack of cohesion in time and very, very risky as such).
So in the example below we show you so you can see very clearly that if one was trading H1 the time for the safest and most profitable trade is exactly when H4 is engaged. This is true whether you are trading M1 or MN which is why we stress the intraday cycle as motive and critical to timing full momentum. The impatience we show about trading so called larger time frames is ignorant and illogical when the object is to win all trades and to trade the longest range available whether we are scalping or position trading. To do that you MUST follow Orbit Logic no more no less. You must follow Orbit Logic not because you cannot trade H4 in your personal system but because your timing will in most cases be random. Add this timing factor to how Orbit space is arranged according to our inductive signalling scheme. Level 1 gives you the trend and risk-free space and level 2 signals show you the direction to trade within level 1 indications and so you cannot go wrong and MUST win the most amounts available because Orbit timing is based on 6n momentum and it is always accurate. This is what I have shown indisputably below. You can call me names and dispute things that I say but we cannot argue with our eyes or mind – you cannot argue the truth with yourself.

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PS: This justifies pivot matching whatever you are trading and it is just for your own good nothing else whatever system you are trading.

Please define:
TT, Cy, FLE

TT (term trades)
Cy (cyclicality)

If not for me, for everyone else
Maybe a keyword dictionary

This was a very good tip i now understand
TT+ CY = = Diagonal == Cyclic Trend == Risk-Free Space = {Level 1 Command}
Within Risk - Free space
H1 + H4 Match + {RA + SA} = = Spot Trades {Level 2 Command

Flow Orbs & Pivot Weights must then add extra value to these commands?

It is very easy start learning simple.

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Darkdoji wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 9:17 am It is very easy start learning simple.

@darkdoji
I saw your disparaging post about me and the "books". You could use some counseling in social interaction, because that kind of diatribe turns people away rather than fosters cooperation. You can see from the number of viewers, subscribers, and downloads that interest in this thread is thus far quite low.

I told you on July 24, "I would really like to revise it for you, but I have no time right now for such a project." This was volunteer work to help the community to have documentation that would be an aid in more easily understanding Orbit, especially considering that the redrawing semaphores and freezing EA create learning challenges. But now, you have succeeded in driving me away.

hesam-moon wrote: Thu Aug 17, 2023 8:43 am station.com/download/file.php?id=3470775&mode=view]

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These are my transactions in the few months before Orbit's help

Been meaning to compliment this post for a while because I think it is truly exemplary. I mean you took a completely new concept apart and then put it together in a way you could use it effectively is to me pure genius I tell you. And your winning rate wow ------------> too much. To me this justifies all effort. To find a trader like you is rare (most traders pretend to be). I salute you my friend and say more grease to your elbows because it just goes to show what is possible with Orbit where the trader has a good head on his shoulders.

Cheers,
S

PS: You need to see the complete post to see what I mean because it is not just this screenshot there is lots more to see the man is a genius and I salute him.

So Gold took off into positive space. We got 4 tosses (trades) on the first bar and to avoid any pain I consulted Page 12 as I do always. Page 12 says the diagonal counter trend rotating to a low returned high confirms the move and so I obey see my TP? I expect the A Diagonal current to terminate at 1930 and to then rotate low to confirm direction {based on signaling and the pattern of pivoting as we go, that is what page 12 means, so don't act without your head}. This also confirms Risk-free Space and a cyclic trend else we resume south, simple.

This is the point about point to point trading you cannot lose when you have your head gear on because you can see (with your eyes) to follow (sorry I lost an entry when I came in groggy eyed and just entered on signal, something as easy as this can cause carelessness. but small thing and as the pilot would say (he is Navy), 4 torpedoes out first bar in space. Timing was spot on and primary and secondary signals agreed. Risk - Free Space Blah, Blah, Blah all correct sir,

BTW: Price might exceed my TP because at this point it is not a complete construction - do not forget this whole game is about displacing an exact point ahead and unknown to anyone except God. But in the Cloud version (with God's permission), we can tell exactly we just do not have space for such an algorithm in the prototype. No pigs on board, because you must wait for THE wow of the Cloud. The Porotype makes that indisputable when you know how to use it. Consider that we have a dude on board with a win rate like rainfall. I think more people will start to see what we are talking about. It is very different but real (and very good). The Cloud will be the final blow Take Profit maxima.

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It important to note that unless those making systems bow to Orbit Values and setup, none will be able to approximate the one from the cloud. I mean that.
So do it, call it whatever name but the Orbit Logic is a marker and everyone with any trading sense at all should know it, learn it and call it that --------> The Orbit Logic. A tribute to Mandelbrot the greatest trading MIND ever.

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PS: Works with all systems pullback, crossover, trend follow, breakout momentum, etc, etc. Think up a conjoint strategy and you cannot fail.

viewtopic.php?p=1295521805#p1295521805 I think has the wrong snapshot. Below is right (see TP Correctly)

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Darkdoji wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 8:15 pm Been meaning to compliment this post for a while because I think it is truly exemplary. I mean you took a completely new concept apart and then put it together in a way you could use it effectively is to me pure genius I tell you. And your winning rate wow ------------> too much. To me this justifies all effort. To find a trader like you is rare (most traders pretend to be). I salute you my friend and say more grease to your elbows because it just goes to show what is possible with Orbit where the trader has a good head on his shoulders.

Cheers,
S

PS: You need to see the complete post to see what I mean because it is not just this screenshot there is lots more to see the man is a genius and I salute him.

Hello Professor, good time. This was a small sample of my transactions. Of course, thanks to you and the system you designed, I reached these favorable results. With your tool, I understood that liquidity is the king of the market. And now I myself have become an Orbit system, thanks to you.