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Re: WW3 Countdown

Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 8:25 pm
by boytoy
wojtek wrote: Sat Jun 21, 2025 7:49 am Comparison of the frontline situation in Ukraine between June 2024 and June 2025

Russian control of Ukraine in June 2024:
ca. 112,000 square km / 43,200 square miles
ca. 18.9% of all Ukraine

Russian control of Ukraine in June 2025:
ca. 116,000 square km / 44,700 square miles
ca. 19.1% of all Ukraine

Ogee wrote: Sat Jun 21, 2025 6:25 pm News by the morning of June 21:

πŸŸ₯ Ukraine will hear Putin's statement that Russia does not rule out the possibility of "taking" Sumy β€” this was stated by the press secretary of the Russian president Dmitry Peskov;

🟦 Ministerial talks between Russia and the United States on the resumption of direct flights have not yet been held β€” this was stated by the president of the US Chamber of Commerce in Russia Robert Agee;

🟦 Pakistan recommended nominating US President Donald Trump for the 2026 Nobel Peace Prize;

🟦 Iran will not negotiate "with either side" as long as Israeli attacks continue β€” this was stated by the Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Islamic Republic Abbas Araghchi;

🟦 The Trump administration has sent notices of dismissal to more than 600 employees of the Voice of America* β€” the American state media outlet broadcasting abroad;
- UARU
Zlatti71@Zlatti_71
Ok wow that is staggering when you put it that way 19% of Ukraine under russian control now and great roundup ogee i like the new format with bullet points sir

Re: WW3 Countdown

Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 8:57 pm
by Ogee
1914 - 1918 The Western Front WW1.

For 4 years, and then suddenly - it was all over.

A war of attrition is like a bankruptcy, it goes very slowly - and then suddenly it goes all at once.

Re: WW3 Countdown

Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 9:09 pm
by wojtek
boytoy wrote: Sat Jun 21, 2025 8:25 pm Ok wow that is staggering when you put it that way 19% of Ukraine under russian control now and great roundup ogee i like the new format with bullet points sir
This war is simply pointless, sir. Lots of people die at the cost
of minimal gains. The comparison to WW1 is apt.
In stationary battles hundreds of thousands of people
died (e.g. in the Battle of Verdun).

Re: WW3 Countdown

Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 1:38 am
by ROI
global wrote: Sat Jun 21, 2025 9:05 am The real reasons for the US-Israeli war on Iran, explained

The United States and Israel are waging war on Iran, but why? What are their real goals? Ben Norton explains the imperial strategy to impose US hegemony in West Asia (aka the Middle East), destroy the Axis of Resistance, colonize Palestine, destabilize the revolutionary Iranian government, preserve the petrodollar system, prevent de-dollarization, divide BRICS, and break up the Iran-Russia-China partnership.

Thanks.

Re: WW3 Countdown

Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 8:48 am
by global
ROI wrote: Sun Jun 22, 2025 1:38 amThanks.
You are most welcome. That's the most detailed explanation I heard so far.

Re: WW3 Countdown

Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 10:14 am
by wojtek
So, breaking news:

U.S. attacks three Iranian nuclear sites, Trump says


https://www.nbcnews.com/world/middle-ea ... rcna214241

Re: WW3 Countdown

Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 10:53 am
by global
Scott Ritter explains that Israel's attacks on Iran and the US support for those attacks are against international law, therefore, those attacks are blatant war crimes and the leaders supporting those attacks are war criminals. With the recent direct US attack on Iran's 3 nuclear sites, Scott's analysis now directly includes the US leader.

Scott Ritter: ISRAEL’S COLLAPSE IS ALREADY HERE

Scott Ritter delivers a powerful and urgent analysis, claiming that Israel is already entering collapse. From nonstop conflict with Iran to mounting internal instability and global isolation, Ritter explains how the signs of breakdown are no longer warningsβ€”they're reality. What does this mean for the future of the region and the global balance of power?



Re: WW3 Countdown

Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 3:22 pm
by vvFish
;) General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine
1 hour Β·
The estimated total combat losses of the enemy
from 24.02.22 to 22.06.25 were approximately /
The estimated total combat losses of the enemy
from 24.02.22 to 22.06.25
personnel – about / about 1011490 (+1100) persons
tanks / tanks – 10964 (+9) from
troop-carrying AFVs – 22867 (+2) from
artillery systems / artillery systems – 29432 (+39) from
MLRS / MLRS – 1421 (+0) from
anti-aircraft systems / anti-aircraft systems – 1188 (+0) from
aircraft / aircraft – 416 (+0) from
helicopters – 337 (+0) units
UAV operational-tactical level – 41579 (+157)
cruise missiles – 3376 (+7)
warships – 28 (+0) units
submarines – 1 (+0) units
vehicles and fuel tanks – 52734 (+117) units
special equipment – ​​3920 (+0)

Re: WW3 Countdown

Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 6:35 pm
by Ogee
''No nuclear radiation is expected''


BREAKING: Iranian TV:
No nuclear radiation is expected, and all enriched uranium has been removed from nuclear facilities in advance
Sulaiman Ahmed
@ShaykhSulaiman








Interesting take on the US attack, this military expert thinks that the B-2s and their 'bunker busting' bombs were not used but instead it was 36 tomahawk cruise missiles.
All the reasons and working out click the blue 'show more' link.




wojtek wrote: Sat Jun 21, 2025 9:09 pm This war is simply pointless, sir. Lots of people die at the cost
of minimal gains. The comparison to WW1 is apt.
In stationary battles hundreds of thousands of people
died (e.g. in the Battle of Verdun).
Sorry but this post misses the point completely.

As the old quote says, war is the continuation of politics by other means.

And so, when actual politics had failed with the Minsk accords war was the inevitable next step and they all knew it (NATO, Ukraine, Russia), it was no surprise to anyone.

'This war is simply pointless, sir.'
No, the region that is now known as Ukraine is traditionally known as 'the soft under belly of Russia' and has been used as an entry point for conquering armies from the west since, well since forever.

To have NATO with their Ukrainian proxy army situated there complete with bases and nuclear missile silos was to be a deliberate existential threat to Russia, that was the whole point of it.

'Lots of people die at the cost of minimal gains.'
That's the whole point of a war of attrition, the destruction of the opposing army, you don't need to be moving territorially in order to achieve that. In fact it's better not to when dealing with a near peer enemy. So instead you have the opposing army continually coming onto your prepared positions. When 1 side runs out of men then the war is over.

'The comparison to WW1 is apt.'
In WW1 the 2 sides fought on a (more or less) unmoving battle front for 4 years, and then 1 side suddenly run out of men and were forced to capitulate.

And that's how this war is going to end. It is already too late for Zelensky to save the country as a whole and the longer he leaves it the more will be lost until Ukraine becomes totally unviable as a nation state and will be picked apart by it's neighbours.

Of course none of this had to happen but the west assured themselves that once provoked Russia would start a war, and the west would respond with killer sanctions, Russia would break apart internally, and then the NATO trained and equipped Ukraine army would push the rudderless Russian army out.

Didn't work, tough luck.

Zelensky needs to salvage what he can as soon as he can, but he's too pathological to understand reality when he sees it.

Re: WW3 Countdown

Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 7:55 pm
by moey_dw
wojtek wrote: Sun Jun 22, 2025 10:14 am So, breaking news:

U.S. attacks three Iranian nuclear sites, Trump says
CRIMINAL........ WHY ATTACK IRAN!?!?!?! NUCLEAR ?!??!?!? WHY NOT ATTACK OTHER NUCLEAR COUNTRIES ????