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952do none of you clowns actually read anything before jumping on a thread and posting your bullshit. go back and read page 100.Gethsemane wrote: Wed Jun 07, 2023 8:28 pm i missed that, show me a "reliable" source on it please, im geniuenly interested, theres a lot of conflicting reports right now
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953If your reffereing to Ukraines backup plan to destroying the dam, then you are plain wrong, sure they must have had that plan incase of emergency, but one can clearly see that is not what happened, it isnt a confession to having done it, oh man, you are so lost in the propaganda. that's the narrative the russians have pushed the last few days because they are guilty of not maintaining it.Ogee wrote: Wed Jun 07, 2023 8:34 pm do none of you clowns actually read anything before jumping on a thread and posting your bullshit. go back and read page 100.
Have you even looked at the pictures of it?
Have you seen explosive damage before?
Now your just following the russian agenda of blaming Ukraine, when russian side did shit to maintain it...
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954Fuck sake, it's like talking to children.Gethsemane wrote: Wed Jun 07, 2023 8:42 pm If your reffereing to Ukraines backup plan to destroying the dam, then you are plain wrong, sure they must have had that plan incase of emergency, but one can clearly see that is not what happened, it isnt a confession to having done it, oh man, you are so lost in the propaganda. that's the narrative the russians have pushed the last few days because they are guilty of not maintaining it.
Have you even looked at the pictures of it?
Have you seen explosive damage before?
Now your just following the russian agenda of blaming Ukraine, when russian side did shit to maintain it...
you did not read the Washington Post article, it states clearly the Ukrainian army officer's admission that they fired artillery and HIMARS at the dam gates and damaging them assessing how they could destroy them if needed as a last resort (such as if on the brink of losing the war like right now)
and you say it's all Russia's fault for not doing maintenance
Reminder that the Dnipro river IS the border between to 2 sides there.
The problem is obvious, you two want something to happen regardless of facts saying it can't hence all the spamming, flaming and trolling. Personally I couldn't give a fuck who wins this shitshow but hundreds of thousands are dying needlessly and the facts are glaringly obvious. Ukraine can't win without NATO troops (never could) and they're not going to get them. Ergo, negotiate before all of Ukraine is lost.
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955They did a test in december, not the same thing, you are projectingOgee wrote: Wed Jun 07, 2023 9:08 pm Fuck sake, it's like talking to children.
you did not read the Washington Post article, it states clearly the Ukrainian army officer's admission that they fired artillery and HIMARS at the dam gates and damaging them assessing how they could destroy them if needed as a last resort (such as if on the brink of losing the war like right now)
and you say it's all Russia's fault for not doing maintenance
Reminder that the Dnipro river IS the border between to 2 sides there.
The problem is obvious, you two want something to happen regardless of facts saying it can't hence all the spamming, flaming and trolling. Personally I couldn't give a fuck who wins this shitshow but hundreds of thousands are dying needlessly and the facts are glaringly obvious. Ukraine can't win without NATO troops (never could) and they're not going to get them. Ergo, negotiate before all of Ukraine is lost.
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Re: WW3 Countdown
956Russian ministry says;
The Armed Forces of Ukraine, having failed to achieve the goals of the offensive and having suffered significant losses in the Yuzhno-Donets direction, tried to break through the defenses in the Artemovsk region, the Russian Defense Ministry reports.
Eight offensive attempts by Ukrainian detachments were successfully repelled, the enemy did not achieve the goal, wedged into the defense was not allowed, the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine per day in this direction amounted to 415 soldiers, the ministry said.
Ukrainian ministry says;
The commander of the operational-strategic group of the Armed Forces of Ukraine "Tavria" Alexander Tarnavskyi said that the counter-offensive consists in the fact that the Armed Forces of Ukraine do not allow the Russian troops to advance.
The Armed Forces of Ukraine, having failed to achieve the goals of the offensive and having suffered significant losses in the Yuzhno-Donets direction, tried to break through the defenses in the Artemovsk region, the Russian Defense Ministry reports.
Eight offensive attempts by Ukrainian detachments were successfully repelled, the enemy did not achieve the goal, wedged into the defense was not allowed, the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine per day in this direction amounted to 415 soldiers, the ministry said.
Ukrainian ministry says;
The commander of the operational-strategic group of the Armed Forces of Ukraine "Tavria" Alexander Tarnavskyi said that the counter-offensive consists in the fact that the Armed Forces of Ukraine do not allow the Russian troops to advance.
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957and you're a fucking retard, shelling first - didn't work. HIMARS second - didn't work. US shows concern - stop. But now we know what it will take for future reference.Gethsemane wrote: Wed Jun 07, 2023 9:16 pm They did a test in december, not the same thing, you are projecting
Re: WW3 Countdown
958As usual with the Russian ministry of Defence:Ogee wrote: Wed Jun 07, 2023 9:19 pm Russian ministry says;
The Armed Forces of Ukraine, having failed to achieve the goals of the offensive and having suffered significant losses in the Yuzhno-Donets direction, tried to break through the defenses in the Artemovsk region, the Russian Defense Ministry reports.
Eight offensive attempts by Ukrainian detachments were successfully repelled, the enemy did not achieve the goal, wedged into the defense was not allowed, the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine per day in this direction amounted to 415 soldiers, the ministry said.
Ukrainian ministry says;
The commander of the operational-strategic group of the Armed Forces of Ukraine "Tavria" Alexander Tarnavskyi said that the counter-offensive consists in the fact that the Armed Forces of Ukraine do not allow the Russian troops to advance.
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Re: WW3 Countdown
960The methods of propaganda is the same
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