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vvFish wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 3:43 am ;)
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Biden responded to the threats of the Russian Foreign Ministry regarding the supply of F-16 fighters to Ukraine

At the G7 summit, the head of the White House was asked if the delivery of the F-16 is a "colossal risk", as they say in Russia.

Biden replied: "For them, yes."

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its funny, because it is true, the radar shadow of russian planes can be seen from enourmous distances, the f-16's can't, and they have range advantage, they will hit russian planes before they saw the f16 radar signature even form a single blip.
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andrei-1 wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 2:05 am It is very convenient to imagine the scale of what is happening. Compare with the size of the armies of some countries.

The capacity of the stadium is 100,024 spectators.

The Melbourne Cricket Ground (MCG), also known locally as "The 'G",[5] is an Australian sports stadium located in Yarra Park, Melbourne, Victoria.
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size doesnt matter when the army is total shit though xD, that amount is how many russians died taking bakhmut, in 12 whole months as well, what a fricking mess of an army, no coordination at all. well its a good thing at least, the incompetence.
the win in bakhmut is a total loss for russia at the same time, because everyone sees how bad they are, and they dont even have modern equipment anymore, all is gone to corruption before the war even started. they cant even afford decent shoes to the poor soldiers
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Many people expect a lot from the F16s.. really?, they aren't a match for the Russians Defence Forces.. open your eyes (and brain), read why.. in the eyes of a former F16 pilot.
Former F-16 pilot says he would not want to fly missions over Ukraine right now, arguing ‘there is no fighting chance’


Ukraine has repeatedly asked the US for fourth-generation fighter jets like the F-16.
But air combat experts have argued that these aircraft would have little battlefield impact.
A former F-16 pilot said these jets don't have a fighting chance given Russia's air defense systems.
Ukrainian officials have long pressed their Western military backers to send them modern fighter jets, arguing Kyiv needs the airpower boost to best the invading Russian forces, and while some in the West agree, others argue fighter aircraft like the ones Ukraine wants wouldn't stand a chance in the current threat environment.

There have been repeated requests for the delivery of American-made F-16s, leading to debates over how effective the fourth-generation plane would be in the skies. One former F-16 pilot told Insider he wouldn't want to attempt to fly missions over Ukraine right now, asserting that the aircraft can't outmatch Russia's air defense systems.

Fourth-generation fighters "have no business in a modern-day battlefield," John Venable, a 25-year veteran of the US Air Force, told Insider in a recent interview.

Since the early days of Russia's full-scale invasion in February 2022, Ukraine has sought fighter jets from its Western allies to supplement its diminishing fleet of Soviet-era MiG-29 and Su-27 fighters, which arguably cannot compete against Russia's superior air force.

F-16 fighters would likely be outmatched by Russian air defense systems
The airspace above Ukraine remains contested after 14 months of war. But Russia has enjoyed a numerically larger air force, stronger technical capabilities in its fighter jets, and long-range surface-to-air missile (SAM) systems, according to a recent report on Russian airpower published by the Center for Naval Analyses.

The capable SAM systems "have proven extremely lethal" against Ukrainian aircraft and are the "primary killer" of Ukrainian jets, helicopters, and drones, the report notes.

Fourth- and fourth-plus-generation fighter jets like the F-16 that lack stealth features are "completely outmatched in high-threat environments" because of advanced air-defense systems like Russia's S-400, argued Venable, a veteran and senior research fellow for defense policy at The Heritage Foundation, a Washington-based think tank.

In commentary published on the think tank's website last month, Venable wrote that the F-16 is not suited for Ukraine's air force for several reasons, including that the S-400 can outsmart the F-16's targeting systems and that it can target the fighter jets before they're in range to fire weapons like Small Diameter Bombs.

Venable said that when he was flying F-16s over Europe earlier in his career as a pilot, his aircraft had solid jamming pods that worked against threats posed by the SA-6 and SA-11 Soviet-era SAM systems. He explained that he would have felt comfortable going up against the integrated Soviet air defenses in the 1980s and 1990s knowing he was backed by HARM targeting systems designed to take those on.

"The threat would've been high. There would've been a good possibility that I would've been shot down, but also at least an equal possibility that I could have made it to the target, hit my target, and then I drop successfully and then egress safely from the battlefield," Venable said.

But there's since been a "whole leap in capabilities" between those and the current Russian SAM systems that have evolved over time. "I had a fighting chance back then," he said. "Today, there is no fighting chance."

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https://www.newsweek.com/russian-su35-j ... ts-1788446

Russian SU-35 = junk

The Su-35 is a "typical Russian machine" that "looks good," but "deep down, it's not that good of a plane,"

The Russian Su-35 is a "very large" twin-engine aircraft, which is "easy to see, easy to pick up on radar, and easy to shoot at with a long-range missile," Hampton said.

"Our planes are more durable. I wouldn't bet in combat on the Su-35 or any Russian-made aircraft,"

The "highly maneuverable" and "high-performance" F-16 aircraft is used for air-to-air and air-to-surface attacks, according to the U.S. Air Force. An all-weather aircraft costing between $14.6 million and $18.8 million, F-16 variants have "superior accuracy" and can defend against enemy aircraft.

They had an experience that proved this in Syria.

On November 24, 2015, a Su-24 type attack aircraft of the Russian Air Force was destroyed in 4 minutes by an F-16 fighter jet of the Turkish Air Force performing reconnaissance flights.

This Turkish f-16,

He locked and pushed back a fleet of su-24 and su-35s 5 times.


LOL, lets give ukraine those f-16s right now <3
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KosmosDaBas wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 6:20 am Do you all exchange information from newspapers? Yeah, yeah, yeah, you probably still don't get the whole point of what's going on.
"Please tell us what you know."
Be patient therefore, brethren, until the coming of the Lord. Behold, the husbandman waiteth for the precious fruit of the earth: patiently bearing till he receive the early and latter rain.
Behold, we account them blessed who have endured. You have heard of the patience of Job, and you have seen the end of the Lord, that the Lord is merciful and compassionate.

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KosmosDaBas wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 6:20 am Do you all exchange information from newspapers? Yeah, yeah, yeah, you probably still don't get the whole point of what's going on.
"I would like to know how you, as a Russian, perceive this war."
Be patient therefore, brethren, until the coming of the Lord. Behold, the husbandman waiteth for the precious fruit of the earth: patiently bearing till he receive the early and latter rain.
Behold, we account them blessed who have endured. You have heard of the patience of Job, and you have seen the end of the Lord, that the Lord is merciful and compassionate.

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"It is quite laughable that we are all learning about the war situation from online media. We cannot verify its authenticity. We assume that the information is true. From what I know, my friend who lives in Ukraine can confirm that there are no Nazi organizations in Ukraine."
Be patient therefore, brethren, until the coming of the Lord. Behold, the husbandman waiteth for the precious fruit of the earth: patiently bearing till he receive the early and latter rain.
Behold, we account them blessed who have endured. You have heard of the patience of Job, and you have seen the end of the Lord, that the Lord is merciful and compassionate.


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