Ogee wrote: Sat May 20, 2023 7:13 pm

Many have suspected all along that Russia was supposed to be just a warm up before the US tackled the real target China. With Russia degraded militarily without the loss of any US lives they could take on a friendless China over Taiwan and maintain their hegemony.

But things turned out differently and the Ukraine is looking a lost cause money pit. Might be time to move on.

An interesting thread from Kim Dotcom.

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And just to clarify, the reason why the Korean war was ''frozen'', was that Eisenhower threatened to use nuclear weapons, as the war was starting to go poorly for the US /UN.
China and Russia were heavily overmatched by the US in nuclear capability and agreed.]

The US Govt is dreaming up a “frozen conflict” in Ukraine similar to the situation on the Korean Peninsula because they know that Ukraine cannot mount a meaningful counteroffensive and the West needs to stop bleeding money into Ukraine. Russia will never accept this. Here is why:

Russia is winning the war. Western sanctions don’t work because Russia cannot be isolated from other major economies. Russia is fighting a low cost war while the West bleeds tens of billions monthly to pay Ukraine for everything from arms to fuel to pensions. It’s unsustainable.
Russia has no interest in a Western controlled Ukraine. It cannot trust the West. The US strategists now realize that Putin bleeds Western prosperity into the black hole of Ukraine. Russia is collapsing Western economies without firing a single shot at them. Grandmaster chess.

China is watching with satisfaction how the situation in Ukraine unfolds. China was the main target of the US Govt goal to defend its hegemony. But US strategists got sucked into the Ukraine trap. When Western economies collapse China can integrate Taiwan without much resistance.

Russia will replace the Zelenskyy regime. Ukraine will default on all of its obligations to the West. This defeat will mark the end of US empire and NATO. The global reset will come in the form of BRICS+, de-dollarization and a multipolar era. Not what the WEF elites had in mind.
The last arrogant move by the US Govt is likely a nuclear war. Many Americans are aware of the betrayal by the deep state, corrupt politicians and their corporate puppet masters. The deep state cabal can either retire in nuclear bunkers or face the anger of the American people.


Meanwhile,

Taiwan is holding talks with the US side on the supply of weapons worth $ 500 million, the head of the island's administration, Tsai Ing-wen, said at a press conference on Saturday.

Reminder that China's plan for Taiwan was always to play the long game and wait. As China become richer and a more attractive partner Taiwan would eventually choose to re-join China of their own free will which China expected would be around 2050.

And to show how completely deluded the G7 are, having started this whole mess costing hundreds of billions of $ and hundreds of thousands of lives, err, lets just go back to the start.

We call on China to put pressure on Russia to stop its military aggression and immediately, completely and unconditionally withdraw its troops from Ukraine - G7
statement

Reminder that Russia was happy with the Minsk agreements that the Ukraine refused to implement after having signed, there was no need for any of this.

War continues.. Today is the day....

"Hell in Bakhmut": PMC "Wagner" broke through the defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and enters the flank of the last fortified area "Airplane"
Ukrainian military analysts in the operational report report a critical situation in Artyomovsk (Bakhmut) and that the defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is again torn in the private sector.

China humiliated Putin and begins to squeeze Russia out of Central Asia
Beijing defiantly did not invite Moscow to the summit of Kazakhstan, Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan, Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan.

Head Wagner : No one helped us liberate Bakhmut, Wagner liberated Bakhmut herself, and thanks to the Russian people for their support to us, and thanks to every person who died for the liberation of these lands.


Reminder that this wasn't the Russian army, the Wagner group is a private military organization run by an ally of Russian leader Vladimir Putin with tens of thousands of fighters, according to U.S. officials.

20 "SHAHEDIV" AND RECONNAISSANCE BpLA "MERLIN-VR" DESTROYED

After midnight on May 20, 2023, the Russian occupiers attacked Ukraine from the north with 18 Shahed-136/131 attack drones, which were directed to the Kyiv region.
All of them were destroyed by the forces and means of the air command "Center" of the Air Force.

Also, at the end of the day on May 19, in the eastern direction in the area of responsibility of the air command "East", two strike drones of the "Shahed" type were destroyed, and in the southern direction in the area of ​​responsibility of the air command "South", the reconnaissance UAV "Merlin-VR" was destroyed.

During the past and current day, the tactical aircraft of the Air Force carried out up to 30 sorties for fire damage and fighter air cover.

In Mariupol, a Storm Shadow missile hit an underground facility, which was allegedly used as a command post of the occupiers.

According with the Russians..Bakhmut is liberated!

Footage of hoisting the flags of Russia and PMC "Wagner" in Bakhmut
224 days of the hardest battles for the city are over.

NewLight wrote: Sun May 21, 2023 9:35 am According with the Russians..Bakhmut is liberated!

"Liberate" lol level it to the ground, now it looks like a regular russian shit town, thats the russian world for you.
Communist scum

From May 25, Wagner PMC units will withdraw from Bakhmut for rest and retraining, - Prigozhin

According to him, during this time, defense lines will be created and the city will be transferred under the control of units of the Russian army.

Prigozhin is trying to come out as a "winner", and soon, when the Armed Forces of Ukraine liberate the city (the flanks are already pouring in), he will lay the blame for his loss on Shoigu and Gerasimov.
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Evgeny Prigozhin says in the video that his mercenaries will build defenses in Bakhmut until May 25, 2023. After that, he will allegedly withdraw the "Wagnerians" from the city and hand over the defense to the soldiers of the Ministry of Defense of Russia.

"The fighting continues, we (the ZSU, — ed.) hold a number of buildings in Bakhmut," Serhiy Cherevaty, the spokesman for the eastern group of the ZSU, said in a comment to Vilna Radio.

Yevhen Prigozhin recorded the video near the railway station building in the center of the city. This area has been temporarily controlled by the Russian invaders since mid-spring 2023. At the same time, explosions can be heard on the video of the leader of the Wagner group.

"We actually kicked out his (Prygozhin, — ed.) very powerful group. It is close to destruction. You understand that he says that he will withdraw his troops and he took Bakhmut. Only for this reason it is said. "The boy said - the boy did", and then do what you want - the main thing is to let me go. Having pinched his tail, he [runs away] because he lost his best shots. In fact, his group "Wagner" has been broken," adds Serhiy Cherevaty.

Prigozhin lied about the lack of ammunition and threatened to leave Bakhmut
On May 5, the Armed Forces announced that the "Wagner" PMC was exhausted in the battle for Bakhmut and had problems with numbers. The scouts added that the Wagnerites also have serious problems with ammunition.

On the same day, the leader of the mercenaries published two appeals: in the first, he complained about heavy losses, and in the second, he announced that on May 10 he was allegedly withdrawing his mercenaries from Bakhmut.

However, there were no signs of withdrawal of troops from the city the next day either. The head of Chechnya, Ramzan Kadyrov, proposed to replace the "Wagnerians" in Bakhmut with fighters from his "Akhmat" military group.

Prigozhin initially agreed, but later stated that the Russian Ministry of Defense had promised the Wagnerites the necessary amount of ammunition.

On May 9, the leader of the mercenaries said that he was threatened by the Ministry of Defense to recognize the potential departure of the Wagnerites from Bakhmut as treason.