winphil wrote:
Mon May 28, 2018 4:33 pm
Good morning boss. I want to appreciate you for the regular updates and systems we benefit from on this forum. More power to your elbows. Secondly, is there a date yet for the Newsletter and packages being prepared for project participants or has it been sent out already cause I didnt get the package.?
Thanks sir.
Hi Amdudus,

me too, I don't receive newsletter since 3 weeks, could you please check?
Many thanks



bulliz wrote:
Mon May 28, 2018 4:59 pm
winphil wrote:
Mon May 28, 2018 4:33 pm
Good morning boss. I want to appreciate you for the regular updates and systems we benefit from on this forum. More power to your elbows. Secondly, is there a date yet for the Newsletter and packages being prepared for project participants or has it been sent out already cause I didnt get the package.?
Thanks sir.
Hi Amdudus,

me too, I don't receive newsletter since 3 weeks, could you please check?
Many thanks

The materials are sent
Many thanks


jolugarpe wrote:
Tue May 29, 2018 4:20 pm
amdudus wrote:
Sun May 27, 2018 1:17 am
For the project participants.
Library dll.
Dear jolugarpe! Very carefully read the directed materials! In order for the indicators to work, you must register on the site, install indicators and a library (one file), then make (before starting work) authorization on the site. Only two indicators will work for free. Access to the rest is paid. If you consider it necessary. The paid service includes an open interest indicator service. I also pay a monthly fee.


All in one: Price, volume and open interest
Volume is a powerful indication of market strength. However, in many cases, we can get a better idea of its significance by tracking it over time, in terms of moves in the markets. One method for doing that is On Balance Volume (OBV). The index is calculated by adding today’s volume to a baseline (yesterday’s value) if the market closed up for the day or subtracting today’s volume if price closed down for the day.
While the idea was largely popularized by well-known technician Joe Granville, who contends he discovered the idea on his own in 1961, it perhaps may have originated with two guys in San Francisco, known only as Woods and Vignolia. They authored a course in 1940 that referred to this calculation as “cumulative volume.”
Before we look at how this indicator can be improved by introducing price and open interest to create the Price, Open Interest, Volume (POIV) indicator, let’s look at a few examples of OBV to get an idea of how it works.
The general philosophy behind OBV analysis is to find a stock that is making a new low in price while the OBV line is not matching that low. This condition suggests that sellers have dried up and the stock is in strong hands. Conversely, when price makes a new rally high that is not matched by a new high in OBV, the indicator is suggesting that the market has perhaps topped.
Microsoft (MSFT) was a great OBV short sale in February 2006 (see “Windows down,” below). We saw massive divergence between price and the actual buying and selling as evidenced by the cumulative flow of volume, as measured by the OBV indicator. As price spurted up in late January, breaking out and sucking technicians into the stock, there was no support from volume buyers. OBV (the red line) was pathetic.
This was the start of the fall, which continued into March and April and gave away to a significant tumble in the fortunes of Microsoft longs.
“Fast on the fly” (below) shows the stock price of the company Fastenal (FAST). Notice the bullish divergent pattern in September 2005. As FAST took out the August lows in September, the X-Ray view of OBV was showing a different picture. OBV was holding up, not going to a new low, suggesting that on the September sell off, the stock was in strong hands. Indeed it was. Price rallied from $29 per share to more than $40 in fewer than 35 trading sessions.
Although we can see here that volume is a useful measure for the markets, there are real problems when we use volume. Problems for stock traders arise when a huge block of stock is swapped from fund to fund; this is not real buying and selling pressure. An even greater problem crept in with the advent of arbitrage programs, whose trades do not necessarily represent supply and demand but minute price differences that are being bought and sold in huge chunks to lock in gains.
Futures traders have different problems with volume in that the largest players, commercial firms that have a business reason for trading the derivative, are usually hedging positions. So, they are not taking on speculative positions that represent buying and selling pressures. These hedges also may become spread buying/selling in the same item or spreads between, say, silver and gold, corn and wheat, or live cattle and feeders.
Despite the problem, volume indictors have proven their worth, but while it is a good idea to watch the cumulative flow of buying and selling pressure, you should not assign all of this buying and selling to bulls and bears. Combined with other concepts, such as keying off the open, we can focus on something more germane to trading based just on volume, or what some might consider related volatility indicators, such as daily ranges.
Futures traders can consider at least one solution to this problem: open interest. Open interest is the number of outstanding contracts in a particular market. Let’s use open interest in the same formula popularized by Granville, but replace volume with open interest (see “Interesting indicator,” below).
We can take this solution a step further with the following formula, which incorporates price, open interest and volume:
CumulativeSum (Open Interest * (Close - Close.1) / (True High - True Low)) + OBV
Let’s break this down into units. The first measure is perhaps the most important, CumulativeSum. It means we will add or subtract a value each day to an ongoing line or indicator. This is not an oscillator. This is a continual flowing line of accumulation and distribution within the market.
The formula is calculating the cumulative sum of open interest times the net change in price, divided by the true range. We then add the OBV value to this cumulative sum.
So we first take the net change in price (today’s close minus yesterday’s close) to get a percentage of where within the range the close was. Not all of the activity will be buying or selling; the market “tells” us what percentage of open interest goes to the buy or sell side.
Not only that, it also means we are incorporating price and trend change into the formula.
What we have accomplished with the formula is to continue to use trend, the direction of the close-to-close change from yesterday. However, we are still unwilling to use all of the open interest on that day. Instead we arrived at a percentage of the range, which is then our multiplier for open interest. In the old OBV technique, both days would have assigned the total volume for the day.
The next step in the formula is to then add this value, a combination of price change and open interest into the original OBV formula. This final step combines price, open interest and volume all into one accumulation/distribution line, giving the indicator the full name of Williams POIV AD.
While POIV presents a very different view of accumulation and distribution it is used in the same fashion. In basic terms, look for divergences (“POIV times two,” above) shows two examples of this new tool, borne from the stock market, but applied to commodities. In the futures markets, volume is not what it once was. These examples indicate that open interest is indeed a better overall measure, at least for commodities.
This has become even truer with the advent of electronic markets. Traders really have a problem these days. There are two sessions of volume: pit and the electronic session. These can be two different things entirely. The constants are price change, close within the daily range and total open interest. What the Williams POIV AD does is combine all of these into one measure of accumulation and distribution so that we can more clearly see the inflows of money into the marketplace. That understanding also suggests that it’s better to use total volume and total open interest, not just the figures for an individual contract.
In “Stocks on the run” (above), you can see how the divergence between this index and price in the S&P 500 has frequently been a harbinger of market rallies. The lesson here is that the indicator works on not only natural resource commodities, but also the financials.
What about stocks?
Obviously, the results here beg the question of whether what we have learned from the futures markets can be applied to equities. The short answer is that cash equities don’t have a comparable figure for open interest. However, single-stock futures do. Although this analysis has not yet been extended to looking at single-stock futures, there is no immediately apparent reason why it wouldn’t be just as useful.
One note of warning is necessary. The Williams POIV AD is a specific formula that compensates for the close within the range relationship, as well telling us how much OI to use, but it is an indicator, not a trading system. In practice, it is useful to confirm a trade or to focus attention on a potential trade. It is not intended to stand as the sole reason to initiate a position in the market.
Hopefully, this index will add a new depth to understanding the daily pattern of buying and selling that goes on in the marketplace. It has a better foundation than what has come before, and that it combines all of the elements of price volume and open interest into one measure, basically an x-ray view, of buying and selling activity and the market place.
Larry Williams has been one of the most prolific educators in the arena of technical analysis; he is the foremost experts on commitment of trader’s reports and has written several technical analysis books.
In the Partizan system, I tried to solve the problem posed differently. This is in the publications below.


More on the interaction of price, volume and open interest
It can be assumed that a trading system based on volume and open interest will work.The one who drafted the volume charts or open interest noticed that they often coincide or outstrip the price action.The volume often increases when the market breaks in one direction.The fall of open interest in the bull market sometimes warns about a near market peak. It is logical that the pressure of purchases or sales, reflected by volume and open interest, should at least be as effective as technical methods based only on price.However, the value of volume and open interest as indicators of a high degree of importance is an illusion.
Traditional volume analysis usually begins with the assumption that the volume will increase with the continuation of the market trend and decline when the market is adjusted. In markets with lateral movement, the volume will be small.The volume will produce spikes on market breakouts (in any direction) and will grow with a trend in the market.I noticed that the largest volume will occur on breakouts and in areas of upward trend in the market.Since this volume behavior is considered normal, any deviation from this behavior can give rise to the suspicion that the trend is not as strong as it seems, and that perhaps it is not worth following.
If, for example, a breakout occurs with a small volume, many traders will not enter the market until the volume increases, thereby confirming a breakthrough.Later on the trend, other traders want to close positions, if the volume began to fall while prices continue to rise in the direction of the trend. The general assumption is that the volume predicts price movement (a very controversial assumption) and that the price action should be supported by a change in volume.There are serious flaws in this technique.First and foremost: we trade by price, not volume.If the market is in a state of a trend and we receive revenues, then what do we care about the fact that this does not confirm the volume? The volume readings are not even nearly reliable enough to serve as a basis for getting out of a profitable position.Prices continue to move - that's what's important. Reasonable risk control and carefully selected monitoring stops will take you out of the market more timely than the volume analysis will do. Interaction of volume and open interest
1. Prices grow and open interest grows.This means that new money is pouring into the market and there is pressure from buyers.(Do not make the mistaken conclusion that there are more buyers than sellers.) The price increase indicates that buyers are willing to pay more and, of course, sellers are willing to cooperate.) This situation is seen as bullish.
2. Prices rise, and open interest falls.There are relatively few new customers on the market, and money is flowing away from it.The rise is most likely due to the fact that the owners of short positions close them, thus leaving the market.This is often a bullish trend for a short time, because those in a short position are usually willing to pay any price to get out, and because they can not afford to stay and suffer further losses.This action is exclusively bearish.Without the receipt of new money on the market, the lifting will cease as soon as those in the short position cease to close. However, the closure of short positions may resume and last longer than anyone could have expected.
3. Prices fall, and open interest grows.New money enters the market, and there is pressure from sellers.This behavior is considered bearish.
4. Prices fall and open interest falls.This is the opposite of situation 2. Now sellers in short positions make money and can afford to stay on the market. Most of the price drop is caused by broken bulls closing their positions.The market receives little money.This is initially a bearish situation, but the market is considered ready for consolidation after the liquidation of the broken long positions is over.Short sellers are known for their lack of patience, and are likely to begin closing as soon as the descending moment begins to subside.I do not see anything wrong with these interpretations, but the question arises about their value.If you want to be convinced of the correctness of your assumptions, then these interpretations can be useful as a method of confirmation.I do not think that trade will be fruitful only on the basis of an analysis of open interest. Having said that changes in open interest do not outpace price movements, it is necessary to mention an important observation concerning open interest, noticed many years ago. In markets with a lateral or weak downward movement, an unexpected drop in open interest often results in market consolidation.Very often, large market participants inflate prices in anticipation of market consolidation.There is a feeling that "insiders" know which way the market will go, and establish their positions against the alleged movement.The theory of "insiders" is seen in studies of volume and open interest. It's hard to believe that someone once really "knows" which way the market will go.
In fact, contrary to the popular presentation, large commercial firms trade because they do not know which way the markets will go.If they or someone else knew something with any degree of certainty, then the market would cease to exist in a matter of months. A more likely explanation for the fall of open interest before consolidation is the lack of confidence about the direction of the market for some traders.Those in short positions are not interested in the market because of low prices.Those in a long position are not interested in the market with a continuing downward trend. However, consolidations, as a rule, always begin with a very negative attitude towards the market, which is already at a low price level.

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