ImpLaNT wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 4:56 pm Everything ingenious is always simple. This is the meaning of genius. Do you think it's simple?
I re-read many of his posts in this thread, but I could not clearly understand the meaning of any of them. I looked through the PDF files that he kindly recommended to understand the meaning of this product. Does anyone understand something from these PDFs? I didn't understand anything (its quite possible that I am moron ). And plus .... the presence of a massive number of bright multi-colored objects both in the template and in its descriptions are also evidence of some deviations. This is my personal opinion ... But just out of respect for the other participants of this resource and such giants as MrTools, I will not speak anymore.
And the last thing... the market is far from chaos in its purest form. In the price movement, the same patterns are periodically present and repeated, on which those who know and understand them earn.

Please sir .
Do not argue since there is no point in doing so about the effectiveness of mathematics (not for its application). That's like the transgender wave. If you believe that something is true; for you that will be true.
And in the case of mathematics it is like asking a creature to write the googolplex number on A4 format sheets. It is possible, of course, but getting it done in practice is something that gets more complicated to do. The thing here is not to measure who has it largIER, thickIER, veinIER and girthIER.
The complicated part is the example that I am going to give you. There is a very good penny stock trader named Ross Cameron. This gentleman is capable of making $500 transform into 1 million dollars within 1 year.
He has already done it more than once and it must be said that he has only arrived once and the other times he has stayed between 300 thousand dollars and 700 thousand dollars.
All perfectly documented with independent audit and you can access all (but all complete) documentation not only by him but also by the audit and the broker himself (since that is advertising that will greatly benefit his business of course).

I know that around here people don't go for penny stocks but that doesn't matter with what I'm going to say after all this yada yada yada.

If this man can do this only with human capacity (brain) and what is proposed here is far superior to it.


Why look for funds, financing or investors and not do it alone?
It has to be mathematically viable and fast (more than Ross Cameron) to do it because mathematics doesn't lie.

Or immediately be hired by either the Banks or the SEC or the IMF to completely disappear from the map as an inconvenient threat of increasing proportions. Or just disappear from the map without having to pay social security contributions and appear somewhere with an anthill in your mouth or crabs and little fish having a feast.

Always sorry about my written English ( is a crap...)
and I never said I don't believe in Math.

Darkdoji wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 11:51 pm Indeed it is simple but you are ignorant and by definition cannot see the simplicity until you understand the subject. However, the mathematics is simple because it is visual and therefore the proof of the thesis is visual and everyone with eyes can see. Only the blind may not see something that is rendered visually. So I will show you the correct way in mathematics to dispute my thesis. Then you will be in a position to judge and be judged.
Please if you do not know what a bijection is read this very simple explanation here https://www.mathsisfun.com/sets/injecti ... ctive.html and if you do not understand the type of mathematical space the market defines as it trades please look at this explanation here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topology . Best to go to the homeomorphisms (the cow and sphere or the doughnut and coffee mug to get a visual sense).

Once you have had a look.

1) Look at the Orbit screenface
2) Look at the set of Semaphor heads
3) Do you find three types? (equinumerosity)
4) Do you have them one-to-one and also unto? In other words, surjective and injective translations? Every one has a unique pair and no one is unpaired?
5) That defines from the math texts you have read or can easily reference at this time a bijection.
6) We have also said that this dynamic has an inverse on
7) So we have demonstrated not just that the math is correct in its logic but correct to the singularity (Inverse On)
8) And so we say by such rules Orbit can call trade correctly 100/100 times. You have seen the math and there is a tool to test to test the thesis out. What is the scare?

It should not be a problem after the above to tell us and show us where the thesis is wrong. I am sure you would want to do that and in this way confirm or reject our thesis. Anyone can do this - besides you are probably one of the most successful and profitable retail traders on earth. One of The few. So tell us, so we can hear you based on facts.

Thank you,

Here you can see screenshots (1 each minute) of the orbit tool for yesterday and today. You can see yesterday it was giving sell signal, but the price went up.
Or did i miss something?

https://files.fm/u/s9zcw9syd

ffsss wrote: Thu Feb 02, 2023 1:17 am Here you can see screenshots (1 each minute) of the orbit tool for yesterday and today. You can see yesterday it was giving sell signal, but the price went up.
Or did i miss something?

https://files.fm/u/s9zcw9syd

Could not use the file as the site required a download and I avoid that when I can on the web. Could you please publish your screenshots here using the regular route so we can comment on them where needed. Also confirm you used the version here following the guidance too as that will help us all understand your context exactly viewtopic.php?p=1295501846#p1295501846 Thanks

Darkdoji wrote: Thu Feb 02, 2023 1:48 am Could not use the file as the site required a download and I avoid that when I can on the web. Could you please publish your screenshots here using the regular route so we can comment on them where needed. Also confirm you used the version here following the guidance too as that will help us all understand your context exactly viewtopic.php?p=1295501846#p1295501846 Thanks

They are a lot of screenshots (800, 1 per minute to track the tool signals) that is why i didnt post it here.

ffsss wrote: Thu Feb 02, 2023 2:44 am They are a lot of screenshots (800, 1 per minute to track the tool signals) that is why i didnt post it here.

But need to see your meaning here select the one or two that make your point and let us review it here. thanks

Darkdoji wrote: Thu Feb 02, 2023 3:23 am But need to see your meaning here select the one or two that make your point and let us review it here. thanks

For example those 3. hours are 13:00, 13:04 and 21:45 respectively. Arrows say down but eurusd went up.

Only spot arrow points up, but for example today, everything is pointing up and spot arrow is pointing down, does that mean should not trade?

ffsss wrote: Thu Feb 02, 2023 3:37 am For example those 3. hours are 13:00, 13:04 and 21:45 respectively. Arrows say down but eurusd went up.

Only spot arrow points up, but for example today, everything is pointing up and spot arrow is pointing down, does that mean should not trade?

Trades are correct a) At top semaphore (with black arrow pointing down) price was at amplitude b) The range arrow turned down (that is your primary trigger) and c) Gold crown at low you exit. I00% correct. In the convention outlined in my post read what spot arrow does. It is not a trade trigger it controls risk of entry and that clear. Finally, price is chaotic that means it is nonmonotonic (goes up and down going up or down) the range arrow reads nonmonotonic movement and points the direction and that direction is always correct as it is correct here - whether or not euro went up for 3 hours or whatever did not change the direction (if I understand you right) and so ultimately you have the a to b translation as shown in your screenshots and at b (the Gold crown at low) was your exit and so judged based on the translation a - b we can all see, I do not see anything wrong or that went wrong at any point. I see a problem with your reading of the relationships between arrows and their pointing. But look at what we wrote on that in my original post and if you want clarification I can explain more here. So let me know if you want any clarification but as expected Orbit is NEVER wrong in timing the bijective stream - semaphore to semaphore. Unless I have misunderstood your meaning and or there is something I do not see in the screenshot that I should revisit if so tell me what. Cheers

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PS: Best advice is read again the relationships between arrows what each does and how the point plus their meaning in combination. Then practice some more and soon you would be fine.

ffsss wrote: Thu Feb 02, 2023 3:37 am For example those 3. hours are 13:00, 13:04 and 21:45 respectively. Arrows say down but eurusd went up.

Only spot arrow points up, but for example today, everything is pointing up and spot arrow is pointing down, does that mean should not trade?

One more thing - you cannot trade M1 fluctuations directly. The fluctuation you are trading is scaled to the intraday cycle. This means movements that complete up and down (objectively) in at least H4. So do not mix up the idea of scale in Orbit it does not use time frames to define moves.

Just something to keep in mind and be clear about.

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Also use the Saishala routine here to get your screen right viewtopic.php?p=1295501822#p1295501822

Darkdoji wrote: Thu Feb 02, 2023 4:08 am

But the crown is a semaphore/zigzag that repaints, right?

So in theory there should be no sell trade here? Or do you mean there should be a sell trade (that would still be opened as eurusd is still going up?), or that trade should be closed when all signals turned buy arrows? Pretty confusing.

ffsss wrote: Thu Feb 02, 2023 4:31 am But the crown is a semaphore/zigzag that repaints, right?

So in theory there should be no sell trade here? Or do you mean there should be a sell trade (that would still be opened as eurusd is still going up?), or that trade should be closed when all signals turned buy arrows? Pretty confusing.

A zigzag or semaphore does NOT repaint it recalculates at new lows and highs. That is the pattern of price look at the bijective streams the structure is recursive and you need to understand that bit of dynamic - zigzags do not "repaint". Very important to understand the difference between repaint action and recalculation. Please try to sort that out mentally and also please go back to the arrows, read them and think about their meanings. Take it easy, it is question of orientation and meaning ---> will take more than a day of watching the price action to get to grips with the realities of chaotic fluctuation.

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