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Re: The FNC Greedy System

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2025 9:05 am
by dacanba
Have you changed the max and min values, and are the signals coming out correctly?
If so, I'm the one with the problem.
Maybe I'll discover new things with use and let you know.

According to the indicator, when will it show a red or blue arrow?
Could it be that I am plotting the fibo incorrectly?
Thanks

Re: The FNC Greedy System

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2025 10:41 am
by funchi
dacanba wrote: Mon Sep 01, 2025 9:05 am Have you changed the max and min values, and are the signals coming out correctly?
If so, I'm the one with the problem.
Maybe I'll discover new things with use and let you know.

According to the indicator, when will it show a red or blue arrow?
Could it be that I am plotting the fibo incorrectly?
Thanks
It felt like déjà vu, so I looked at Mr. dacanba’s past posts.
Ah, it was Mr. dacanba. My daughter had mentioned him.
“She gets frustrated when bugs are reported but no detailed information is provided,” she said, fuming.
Also, answering a question with another question.

Haha.

Re: The FNC Greedy System

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2025 10:58 am
by ChuChu Rocket
funchi wrote: Mon Sep 01, 2025 10:41 am It felt like déjà vu, so I looked at Mr. dacanba’s past posts.
Ah, it was Mr. dacanba. My daughter had mentioned him.
“She gets frustrated when bugs are reported but no detailed information is provided,” she said, fuming.
Also, answering a question with another question.

Haha.
Haha. A serial reporter of bugs, with no information in regards to the bugs.

Re: The FNC Greedy System

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2025 11:24 pm
by newbietrader1
funchi wrote: Wed Aug 27, 2025 8:39 am This is the second time I’m responding regarding “Zee_SupportResistance. V1.0”.
It repaints.
Although you mentioned that you’re aware of the repainting, it seems you haven’t fully understood what that actually means.

If you check using the tester (backtest), it becomes clear.
Please confirm the indicator’s behaviour yourself.

When I tested it, it kept switching between support and scissors repeatedly.
At the time of the red arrow, I assume it was showing support (though I haven’t checked in detail).
Dear Mr Funchi,

I'm sorry for the foolish question that I have asked. For my understanding 'repaints' means the signal will keep changing from time to time, as you said scissors to sup/res or otherwise. So, I can understand it as since the signal keep on 'changing', the timing for entry/exit might not be accurate or precise, it might be delay. I will look for a better back tester for clearer picture and understanding (or if anyone can recommend).

I'm trying to set the paramater for zee/support exit condition into 80% instead of 100%, will it make any changes or effect? Like will it react to the condition faster and exit earlier? Just curious, sorry.


For the FNC_Elliot_Oscillator, may I ask the check method, for upward colour/downward colour, which entry point does it mean? (image attached with 2 red arrows).

For the up arrow / down arrow, does it mean it takes entry/exit when the arrow (for zigzag) appears?

Re: The FNC Greedy System

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2025 3:00 am
by newbietrader1
funchi wrote: Wed Aug 27, 2025 8:48 am Please check the matter related to “Zee_SupportResistance. V1.0” yourself using the tester (backtest) before asking any questions.
When making an enquiry, please attach the tester results.

Running checks using the MT4 tester is a time-consuming task.

If there are any unanswered questions not related to “Zee_SupportResistance. V1.0”, please repost them.

Dear Mr funchi,

I have updated all the FNC_DB column and parameter as per attached. I also updated the FNC_DB_EA parameter too. I have not set any stop loss. I just only have few questions to ask. We don't talk about the Zee_SupRes and repainting issue first.

1) For USD CAD image, it triggers sell at Blue arrow. As I can see, there is no reason for it to trigger the sell, since all indicators are in up trend. If we refer to the red arrow, only the WAE, OBV is downtrend, but ADX and kingfisher indicator is still uptrend.

2) For USD CHF image, it triggers sell at Blue arrow. As I can see, there is no reason for it to trigger the sell, since all indicators are in up trend. If we refer to the red arrow, only the ADX, WAE, OBV is downtrend, but kingfisher indicator is still uptrend.

For trade to trigger, my settings for FNC_DB (WAE, OBV, ADX, KINGFISHER must be aligned, including Zee_SupRes, of course Zee_SupRes repaints.)

3) I was wondering is there any settings problem with the Kingfisher indicator? Is it better to use stochastic (2x) indicator instead? I will test it too.

4) As we can see the trade auto exit after certain points, I haven't set any stop loss at FNC_DB_EA, except the FNC_DB exit parameter, I set the signal match ratio for exit (GE%) to 80%, and 8th column (Zee S/R) for opposite direction. Why it exits that way?

5) I have noticed the entry time is always 7 seconds delay, is it normal?


Again, I'm sorry to ask a lot of questions again. Thank you for your patient Mr Funchi. Your reply is much appreciated.

Re: The FNC Greedy System

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2025 8:28 am
by funchi
newbietrader1 wrote: Mon Sep 01, 2025 11:24 pm Dear Mr Funchi,

I'm sorry for the foolish question that I have asked. For my understanding 'repaints' means the signal will keep changing from time to time, as you said scissors to sup/res or otherwise. So, I can understand it as since the signal keep on 'changing', the timing for entry/exit might not be accurate or precise, it might be delay. I will look for a better back tester for clearer picture and understanding (or if anyone can recommend).

I'm trying to set the paramater for zee/support exit condition into 80% instead of 100%, will it make any changes or effect? Like will it react to the condition faster and exit earlier? Just curious, sorry.


For the FNC_Elliot_Oscillator, may I ask the check method, for upward colour/downward colour, which entry point does it mean? (image attached with 2 red arrows).

For the up arrow / down arrow, does it mean it takes entry/exit when the arrow (for zigzag) appears?
> I'm trying to set the paramater for zee/support exit condition into 80% instead of 100%, will it make any changes or effect?
> Like will it react to the condition faster and exit earlier? Just curious, sorry.

You are probably referring to the "Signal Match ratio for Entry (%GE)" parameter in FNC_DB.
It displays an entry signal when the percentage of matching arrow signals in the first column of the 10 signal indicators exceeds the specified parameter. ("Base signal")
Alternatively, it displays an entry signal when the percentage of matching arrow signals among all 10 signal indicators exceeds the specified parameter. ("Not used as base signal. Signal match ratio")
Therefore,
(I'll skip the summary, as I believe you've understood the explanation.)


> For the FNC_Elliot_Oscillator, may I ask the check method, for upward colour/downward colour, which entry point does it mean? (image attached with 2 red arrows).

It’s the one on the left side.
A blue histogram indicates an upward signal, and a red histogram indicates a downward signal.
In terms of "BEATS V5", a blue upward arrow on the chart means an upward signal, and a red downward arrow means a downward signal.


> For the up arrow / down arrow, does it mean it takes entry/exit when the arrow (for zigzag) appears?

I didn’t quite understand your question.
Please feel free to repost it if necessary.

Re: The FNC Greedy System

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2025 9:04 am
by funchi
newbietrader1 wrote: Tue Sep 02, 2025 3:00 am Dear Mr funchi,

I have updated all the FNC_DB column and parameter as per attached. I also updated the FNC_DB_EA parameter too. I have not set any stop loss. I just only have few questions to ask. We don't talk about the Zee_SupRes and repainting issue first.

1) For USD CAD image, it triggers sell at Blue arrow. As I can see, there is no reason for it to trigger the sell, since all indicators are in up trend. If we refer to the red arrow, only the WAE, OBV is downtrend, but ADX and kingfisher indicator is still uptrend.

2) For USD CHF image, it triggers sell at Blue arrow. As I can see, there is no reason for it to trigger the sell, since all indicators are in up trend. If we refer to the red arrow, only the ADX, WAE, OBV is downtrend, but kingfisher indicator is still uptrend.

For trade to trigger, my settings for FNC_DB (WAE, OBV, ADX, KINGFISHER must be aligned, including Zee_SupRes, of course Zee_SupRes repaints.)

3) I was wondering is there any settings problem with the Kingfisher indicator? Is it better to use stochastic (2x) indicator instead? I will test it too.

4) As we can see the trade auto exit after certain points, I haven't set any stop loss at FNC_DB_EA, except the FNC_DB exit parameter, I set the signal match ratio for exit (GE%) to 80%, and 8th column (Zee S/R) for opposite direction. Why it exits that way?

5) I have noticed the entry time is always 7 seconds delay, is it normal?


Again, I'm sorry to ask a lot of questions again. Thank you for your patient Mr Funchi. Your reply is much appreciated.
> For USD CAD image, it triggers sell at Blue arrow. As I can see, there is no reason for it to trigger the sell, since all indicators are in up trend. If we refer to the red arrow, only the WAE, OBV is downtrend, but ADX and kingfisher indicator is still uptrend.
> For USD CHF image, it triggers sell at Blue arrow. As I can see, there is no reason for it to trigger the sell, since all indicators are in up trend. If we refer to the red arrow, only the ADX, WAE, OBV is downtrend, but kingfisher indicator is still uptrend.

We only know that a sell occurred, but we can't determine what the FNC_DB signals were at that time.
Assuming the trade was executed by FNC_DB's automated trading (a comment is usually added if FNC_DB places the trade),
if historical data is not fully loaded beforehand when launching FNC_DB, the signals are generated based on outdated data.
This is especially likely if you only use MT4 during the day, as historical data from the night may not be loaded.
Therefore, even if you start FNC_DB right after launching MT4 in the morning, it will not immediately display accurate signals.

FNC_DB’s entry conditions are not configured to require all signals to match.
It appears that only columns 1 to 5 are used to determine the signal.
As we can’t tell from the chart and FNC_DB column settings alone, I can’t say for certain,
but perhaps it was a legitimate sell entry?
Without both the chart template and the FNC_DB template, it’s not possible to investigate this accurately.


> As we can see the trade auto exit after certain points, I haven't set any stop loss at FNC_DB_EA, except the FNC_DB exit parameter, I set the signal match ratio for exit (GE%) to 80%, and 8th column (Zee S/R) for opposite direction. Why it exits that way?

I’m not sure which image you are referring to,
but regarding the signal ratio, please refer to my previous post.
As for Zee S/R, please refer to the answer in your post before last.


> I have noticed the entry time is always 7 seconds delay, is it normal?

Entries are executed as quickly as possible.
If the candlestick used for the signal is “1” (the previous one), the entry is made after the new candlestick appears and the signal is evaluated.
In a thin or quiet market, a delay of 7 seconds is possible.

Re: The FNC Greedy System

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2025 9:24 am
by funchi
newbietrader1 wrote: Mon Sep 01, 2025 11:24 pm
I have created an index called “Settings” in Post #1.
I can provide additional explanations if anything is unclear.
If there are other points you don’t understand, I will add them to the index.
There is also an index for the signal ratio.

Re: The FNC Greedy System

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2025 3:46 am
by newbietrader1
funchi wrote: Tue Sep 02, 2025 9:04 am > For USD CAD image, it triggers sell at Blue arrow. As I can see, there is no reason for it to trigger the sell, since all indicators are in up trend. If we refer to the red arrow, only the WAE, OBV is downtrend, but ADX and kingfisher indicator is still uptrend.
> For USD CHF image, it triggers sell at Blue arrow. As I can see, there is no reason for it to trigger the sell, since all indicators are in up trend. If we refer to the red arrow, only the ADX, WAE, OBV is downtrend, but kingfisher indicator is still uptrend.

We only know that a sell occurred, but we can't determine what the FNC_DB signals were at that time.
Assuming the trade was executed by FNC_DB's automated trading (a comment is usually added if FNC_DB places the trade),
if historical data is not fully loaded beforehand when launching FNC_DB, the signals are generated based on outdated data.
This is especially likely if you only use MT4 during the day, as historical data from the night may not be loaded.
Therefore, even if you start FNC_DB right after launching MT4 in the morning, it will not immediately display accurate signals.

FNC_DB’s entry conditions are not configured to require all signals to match.
It appears that only columns 1 to 5 are used to determine the signal.
As we can’t tell from the chart and FNC_DB column settings alone, I can’t say for certain,
but perhaps it was a legitimate sell entry?
Without both the chart template and the FNC_DB template, it’s not possible to investigate this accurately.


> As we can see the trade auto exit after certain points, I haven't set any stop loss at FNC_DB_EA, except the FNC_DB exit parameter, I set the signal match ratio for exit (GE%) to 80%, and 8th column (Zee S/R) for opposite direction. Why it exits that way?

I’m not sure which image you are referring to,
but regarding the signal ratio, please refer to my previous post.
As for Zee S/R, please refer to the answer in your post before last.


> I have noticed the entry time is always 7 seconds delay, is it normal?

Entries are executed as quickly as possible.
If the candlestick used for the signal is “1” (the previous one), the entry is made after the new candlestick appears and the signal is evaluated.
In a thin or quiet market, a delay of 7 seconds is possible.

Hi Mr Funchi,

I have attached the chart template and FNC_DB template for your investigation.

Also attached with screenshot image of yesterday result. It seems they 'auto-exit' at some point. I have highlighted (red vertical line) as each entry point.

1st, 2nd and 3rd entry seems valid, seems all indicator aligned, except no Zee_SupRes (I believe it repaints), perhaps need to add other indicator (stochastic) to determine the oversold and overbought area. I will test it with this FNC_STOCH.

For the blue square area, just wondering why it didn't take any sell trade when everything seems to aligned?

Also for the 4th entry, when sell entry trigger when Kingfisher indicator is positive?

Re: The FNC Greedy System

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2025 8:26 am
by funchi
newbietrader1 wrote: Wed Sep 03, 2025 3:46 am Hi Mr Funchi,

I have attached the chart template and FNC_DB template for your investigation.

Also attached with screenshot image of yesterday result. It seems they 'auto-exit' at some point. I have highlighted (red vertical line) as each entry point.

1st, 2nd and 3rd entry seems valid, seems all indicator aligned, except no Zee_SupRes (I believe it repaints), perhaps need to add other indicator (stochastic) to determine the oversold and overbought area. I will test it with this FNC_STOCH.

For the blue square area, just wondering why it didn't take any sell trade when everything seems to aligned?

Also for the 4th entry, when sell entry trigger when Kingfisher indicator is positive?
> For the blue square area, just wondering why it didn't take any sell trade when everything seems to aligned?

The signals are not aligned on my broker’s historical data.
It seems you haven’t done any backtesting.
I also recall asking you to post your backtest results.