I don't care what others think, I will always be a die-hard fan of this system. Four times the profit in hand.

10%+ for today again.

This point has surely been made before:

The system repaints just as price, market structure and one's analysis "repaint".

Complaining about it suggests that only the left side of the chart has been studied, followed by frustration that it "doesn't work" on the right side of the chart.

Same as anything else in trading.

Years ago The Rumpled One had a modified 3LZZ that left a "trail" of where various semafors had previously formed. May be worth digging up if anyone wants to overcome repaint-based anxiety.

Tomson wrote: Thu Oct 23, 2025 9:35 pm This point has surely been made before:

The system repaints just as price, market structure and one's analysis "repaint".

Complaining about it suggests that only the left side of the chart has been studied, followed by frustration that it "doesn't work" on the right side of the chart.

Same as anything else in trading.

Years ago The Rumpled One had a modified 3LZZ that left a "trail" of where various semafors had previously formed. May be worth digging up if anyone wants to overcome repaint-based anxiety.

any chance to put hand on this 3LLZZ indicator ?

morning thought:

maybe a "solution" to dots repaint confusion problem would be the introduction of dots ghosts display ?
Like for instance, 2 or 3 ancestors, when available, displayed with decreasing alpha or size (the oldest beeing almost transparent or the smaller) and erased as soon as opposite dot would be displayed... it would give indication on dot reliability/stability.

or simply don't display them if emas levels are not as they should be...

what's most confusing on v23 is that candle can be red for a long time with price going up... is it possible to restore grey colored candles like in V19 ?

SOLESHOE wrote: Fri Oct 24, 2025 6:37 pm any chance to put hand on this 3LLZZ indicator ?

I no longer have it.

SOLESHOE wrote: Fri Oct 24, 2025 6:46 pm morning thought:

maybe a "solution" to dots repaint confusion problem would be the introduction of dots ghosts display ?
Like for instance, 2 or 3 ancestors, when available, displayed with decreasing alpha or size (the oldest beeing almost transparent or the smaller) and erased as soon as opposite dot would be displayed... it would give indication on dot reliability/stability.

or simply don't display them if emas levels are not as they should be...

First time I seen the Semafor indicator was on FF back in 2011. We all thought we discovered the holy grail, I mean it was like everone lost there minds for a minute. Oh, those were the days... Let me tell you with the confidence of a guy whose been doing this to long: that road leads knowhere. Seriously, noone was profitable with it in the long run, your just chasing ghosts. You still end up learning and using the good, old classic indicators anyways. So why not start now? Some really great creations you folks have came up with here.

SOLESHOE wrote: Fri Oct 24, 2025 6:46 pm morning thought:

maybe a "solution" to dots repaint confusion problem would be the introduction of dots ghosts display ?
Like for instance, 2 or 3 ancestors, when available, displayed with decreasing alpha or size (the oldest beeing almost transparent or the smaller) and erased as soon as opposite dot would be displayed... it would give indication on dot reliability/stability.

or simply don't display them if emas levels are not as they should be...

my bad, i just realised that dots should be considered as secondary trend indicators, ema cross beeing the main trend confirmation signal

Back in the early part of my trading education, an instructor mentioned an "old system" call the First Pullback System. Basically, when your chart has a change in direction, you do not know if this is a new trend or just a pause in the previous direction. So you do not get in on the new direction, but wait to see what direction it is going to move. If you are goinng to stay with the previous direction , you will move past the previous change in direction. If you are in a new direction, you will get a pullback. Pullback means that you will move back in the previous direction but not past the turning point. This pullback means a possible new direction.
When I first saw Xard's Simple Trend Following System I could see this "Old System" come to life in a much clearer version. The initial change is direction (Big Dot, Arrow, Square) shows a possible new direction. But you do not get in then as you cannot tell, for sure, if you are starting a new direction or just having a pause in the previous direction. The new direction changes (dot) and we wait to see if this is a new direction. We could go past the previous change in direction (Dot, Arrow, Square) or be in a pullback of the new direction (new or second dot). If we get a new dot (second dot), chances are that we are going in the new direction. With the old "Pullback System" there was some discrepancy as to when to enter the new trade. Xard has chosen to use the crossing of two EMAs!
When I was first trading, I didn't like the First Pullback System. I wanted to get into my trade sooner. Seemed that alot of pips were being missed. As I age I have learned more patience. The dots, arrows and squares are just markers to make it easier to see the directional changes. You don't TRADE them. They let you know when a trade is near.

Shockr wrote: Sat Oct 25, 2025 3:42 am Back in the early part of my trading education, an instructor mentioned an "old system" call the First Pullback System.

It's great in theory but if u want to apply this in practice and trade from small dot or big dot as continuation of trend u always have options like i mark in chart below. And if we wait for confirmation we can miss continuation move. Waiting for arrow + second big dot in strong trend can take ages.