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Re: Ehlers Indicators for MT4

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2024 10:20 pm
by Cagliostro
ionone wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 9:06 pm why couldn't you fix the repainting issue first, for an indi that "doesn't repaint" it repaints pretty badly
The MTF component will repaint in any case, it is how MTF works.

Is the rest repainting, sure?

Find something in the code below that enables repainting please.

Code: Select all

// Main Fisher Transform Loop
for(i_ = limit - 1; i_ >= 1; i_--)
{
   MaxH = High[Highest(NULL, 0, MODE_HIGH, period, i_)];
   MinL = Low[Lowest(NULL, 0, MODE_LOW, period, i_)];
   ...
   mainFisherCalc0[i_] = ... // Calculation
   ...
}
Doing calculations from the newest bar (limit - 1) down to the oldest (i_ >= 1) prevents “forward-looking” changes to already-closed bars. Once bar i_ is processed, its values are fixed and do not change afterward.

PS: none is forcing you to use it, there are 100.000 indicators around to test. Nothing personal, but your attitude is not the best.

Re: Ehlers Indicators for MT4

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2024 11:57 pm
by ionone
Cagliostro wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 10:20 pm The MTF component will repaint in any case, it is how MTF works.

Is the rest repainting, sure?

Find something in the code below that enables repainting please.

Code: Select all

// Main Fisher Transform Loop
for(i_ = limit - 1; i_ >= 1; i_--)
{
   MaxH = High[Highest(NULL, 0, MODE_HIGH, period, i_)];
   MinL = Low[Lowest(NULL, 0, MODE_LOW, period, i_)];
   ...
   mainFisherCalc0[i_] = ... // Calculation
   ...
}
Doing calculations from the newest bar (limit - 1) down to the oldest (i_ >= 1) prevents “forward-looking” changes to already-closed bars. Once bar i_ is processed, its values are fixed and do not change afterward.

PS: none is forcing you to use it, there are 100.000 indicators around to test. Nothing personal, but your attitude is not the best.
once again : play your indicator in the strategy tester, for a few bars, and then put the indicator a second time on the chart
both signals should be identical if they don't repaint.
here is what your indicator outputs :
TWO TOTALLY DIFFERENT THINGS and this is without any MTF

Re: Ehlers Indicators for MT4

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2024 12:01 am
by Tradehunter
Why not ask kvak or Mr. Tools to take a look at the code?
I'm sure they would help you seeing as how you are making an attempt to contribute, which is great.
But this is a game of money, and people are putting it on the line based on something that doesn't work. That's not great

Re: Ehlers Indicators for MT4

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2024 12:18 am
by Cagliostro
ionone wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 11:57 pm once again : play your indicator in the strategy tester, for a few bars, and then put the indicator a second time on the chart
both signals should be identical if they don't repaint.
here is what your indicator outputs :
TWO TOTALLY DIFFERENT THINGS
screenshot.743.jpg
and this is without any MTF
This is my tester, with an additional indicator on top. Stop using different settings and wasting my time. As said go and find something else to use.
Discussion is over.

Re: Ehlers Indicators for MT4

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2024 12:37 am
by ionone
Cagliostro wrote: Tue Dec 24, 2024 12:18 am This is my tester, with an additional indicator on top. Stop using different settings and wasting my time. As said go and find something else to use.
Discussion is over.

image_2024-12-23_141534799.png
look all the best coders here say the same thing as me (kvak, TradezHunter, etc), that it repaints badly

I understand that it doesn't repaint on your computer. But if it repaints on ALL computers except yours, then there might be a proble somewhere
also this last screenshot you posted doesn't look at all like the curve posted on your initial post

what you just posted :
Image

see what Kvak posted :
Image

see how the curves are not similar at all ?
one is smooth, one is hard

also when I put the indi on H1 I got this error :
"2024.12.23 14:33:32.509 Kingfisher's Net MTF nrp 1.2 EURUSD,H1: zero divide in 'Kingfisher's Net MTF nrp 1.2.mq4' (182,52)"

this might be the reason we all have different results that yours:

Re: Ehlers Indicators for MT4

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2024 12:39 am
by ionone
Tradehunter wrote: Tue Dec 24, 2024 12:01 am Why not ask kvak or Mr. Tools to take a look at the code?
I'm sure they would help you seeing as how you are making an attempt to contribute, which is great.
But this is a game of money, and people are putting it on the line based on something that doesn't work. That's not great
yes please release the code like we all do here and we'll fix it in no time.
(If you're not here to discredit the forums' reputation of course)

Re: Ehlers Indicators for MT4

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2024 12:57 am
by ionone
Cagliostro wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 10:20 pm
Listen carefully
this will be the last attempt to communicate with you.

1) you made a mistake, and you posted a shitty "improved" Solar Winds (very repainting) while you meant to post the real indicator that you made and we'll forgive you if you recognize your mistake

OR

2) you intentionally are trying to discredit the reputation of this forum by posting crappy indicator that repaint badly as the real deal and as a very professionnal looking indicator (so pro that Jimmy posted it on social platforms like Facebook)

your turn

Re: Ehlers Indicators for MT4

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2024 2:16 am
by Cagliostro
ionone wrote: Tue Dec 24, 2024 12:57 am Listen carefully
this will be the last attempt to communicate with you.

1) you made a mistake, and you posted a shitty "improved" Solar Winds (very repainting) while you meant to post the real indicator that you made and we'll forgive you if you recognize your mistake

OR

2) you intentionally are trying to discredit the reputation of this forum by posting crappy indicator that repaint badly as the real deal and as a very professionnal looking indicator (so pro that Jimmy posted it on social platforms like Facebook)

your turn
screenshot.744.jpg
I will not pay much attention at the rude and aggressive tone you are keeping, nor the fact that you questioned my integrity by asking if I am deliberating trying to ruin this forum's reputation. More, I tried to find your wonderful contributions to this great community but, unfortunately, did not find much of value, apart from continuous requests, complains and meme.

Said that, and thanks to the Xmas spirit possessing me now, let me answer once more, and for the last time to your uneducated rantings.

1) The indicator was and is an attempt to get something good out of the fisher transform, it is not a mystery, there are discussions in the forum about this. I don't know if the outcome is good or not but I am using it daily on 1M and 5M TF, below the two trades I took today, where the indicator was just a confirmation element. It works for me, you can use something else, experience is individual, you should know it.
2) Kvak analysis that you mentioned was correct, and if you can read, in my answer, I apologized as I've uploaded an initial old version. After that 2 more versions have been updated, with refined logic and improved controls for repainting.

3) The indicator is not optimized for TF higher than 15M, if you want to use it on those TF I'd need to work on it, but this was not the original scope of the exercise.

4) You keep using different settings in the strategy tester and, naturally, the results are different. I cannot do much on this, the smoothing and periods change the curve a lot. I tried it on 3 different pcs and is not repainting in the tester.

5) The spirit here is purely sharing experiences, you paid nothing, I owe you nothing. And I think that the doctor did not order you to read my posts, to follow what I think or use what I share. Did he?

6) Do not bother to reply, I will not answer again. Last advice, if you can take it: relax, this attitude won't bring any success or improve your trading, or help you to make new friends.

Re: Ehlers Indicators for MT4

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2024 3:00 am
by ionone
Cagliostro wrote: Tue Dec 24, 2024 2:16 am
ok I ran a quick backtest after putting the indi through tester, and the results are very good.

so the REAL signals are actually the "repainted" this is crazy

I owe you an apology I guess.

but when I put it on a chart I still got the wrong signals. maybe it has to do with the error I told you about ?

2024.12.23 17:00:31.445 Kingfisher's Net MTF nrp 1.2 USDCHF,M15: zero divide in 'Kingfisher's Net MTF nrp 1.2.mq4' (182,52)

Re: Ehlers Indicators for MT4

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2024 3:26 am
by ionone
OH
I know why I got good results....the arrows are one bar early in the future...
that's not an edge...
that's repainting my dude

shit so much repainting I need to wash my eyes with hot piss lol