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Re: Ehlers Indicators for MT4

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2024 8:00 am
by ujtrader
Cagliostro wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2024 7:38 am Yes, confirm that. It uses a reverse loop, processing bars from the newest to the oldest to ensure that only completed bars are used for indicator calculations, thereby preventing repainting.
Thank you for clarifying . Keep up the excellent work!

Re: Ehlers Indicators for MT4

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2024 8:23 am
by kvak
Cagliostro wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2024 7:38 am Yes, confirm that. It uses a reverse loop, processing bars from the newest to the oldest to ensure that only completed bars are used for indicator calculations, thereby preventing repainting.
Without any offensive to you and to your work, this indicator is bad repainter as you see from my short live test.....

Re: Ehlers Indicators for MT4

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2024 10:57 am
by Cagliostro
kvak wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2024 8:23 am Without any offensive to you and to your work, this indicator is bad repainter as you see from my short live test.....
Thanks Kvak, I uploaded an old version. This should reflect the inversed loop for both alerts and drawing logics.

KINGFISHER'S NET WITH HTF FILTER NRP (UPDATE)

Re: Ehlers Indicators for MT4

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:17 pm
by ionone
Cagliostro wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2024 10:57 am Thanks Kvak, I uploaded an old version. This should reflect the inversed loop for both alerts and drawing logics.

KINGFISHER'S NET WITH HTF FILTER NRP (UPDATE)
no offense it doesn't work either.
you should put it in the strategy tester before releasing a new version

Re: Ehlers Indicators for MT4

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2024 10:12 pm
by ujtrader
Finally caught the repainting in action. Initially, it was down and confirmed on the M30 close, but after 30 minutes or so, it changed. And guess what? The white line just repainted! I've concluded that if what you're saying were true, it would be the holy grail but sadly, it’s never exits. Using a reverse loop would just give delayed signals, not the 'magically accurate' ones we get now

Re: Ehlers Indicators for MT4

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2024 10:36 pm
by Cagliostro
ujtrader wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2024 10:12 pm Finally caught the repainting in action. Initially, it was down and confirmed on the M30 close, but after 30 minutes or so, it changed. And guess what? The white line just repainted! I've concluded that if what you're saying were true, it would be the holy grail but sadly, it’s never exits. Using a reverse loop would just give delayed signals, not the 'magically accurate' ones we get now
I don't believe any holy grail exists, as market is fluid and chaotic. There are many forces applied on it at any moment. Inverse loops change naturally the accuracy, I am testing stuff belonging to both families.

Nevertheless, I find it pretty useful for confirmations if used with the same mindset of using zigzags, they repaint but they can be a game changer (for me a repainting xard indicator changed the entire trading strategy and profitability).

PS: did the white line repaint after the HTF candle closed?

Re: Ehlers Indicators for MT4

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2024 10:39 pm
by ujtrader
Kingfisher/SolarWind joy is essentially just Fisher Transform—their code is the same, with only a difference in the counting logic. Check the difference when both use the same settings. The Fisher Transform I attached doesn’t repaint, unlike the other one! So if you remove the repainting, it will work just like the attached one, since both share the same code logic it's just the loop logic that differs.

Also, a small request if you could add an MTF filter to the attached one, it would be amazing. No offense, brother I truly appreciate your hard work. We're just discussing to make things perfect for everyone!

Re: Ehlers Indicators for MT4

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2024 10:58 pm
by Cagliostro
ujtrader wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2024 10:39 pm Kingfisher/SolarWind joy is essentially just Fisher Transform—their code is the same, with only a difference in the counting logic. Check the difference when both use the same settings. The Fisher Transform I attached doesn’t repaint, unlike the other one! So if you remove the repainting, it will work just like the attached one, since both share the same code logic it's just the loop logic that differs.

Also, a small request if you could add an MTF filter to the attached one, it would be amazing. No offense, brother I truly appreciate your hard work. We're just discussing to make things perfect for everyone!
We are here to grow together brother, zero offense, thanks a lot for helping.

Just try to redownload the indicator from the original post, as I had uploaded a wrong version. Check below the differences.

Re: Ehlers Indicators for MT4

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2024 11:04 pm
by ujtrader
Cagliostro wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2024 10:36 pm I don't believe any holy grail exists, as market is fluid and chaotic. There are many forces applied on it at any moment. Inverse loops change naturally the accuracy, I am testing stuff belonging to both families.

Nevertheless, I find it pretty useful for confirmations if used with the same mindset of using zigzags, they repaint but they can be a game changer (for me a repainting xard indicator changed the entire trading strategy and profitability).

PS: did the white line repaint after the HTF candle closed?
Yes, that’s what I was initially saying repainting can be a good confluence, but you shouldn't rely on its signals for entries. I started to trust it because you mentioned it didn’t repaint and confirmed the inverse logic. However, today I found the repaint issue as the white line was repainted after the second M30 close, right after it initially confirmed down. after the previous m30 candle's close

Re: Ehlers Indicators for MT4

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2024 11:06 pm
by ujtrader
Cagliostro wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2024 10:58 pm We are here to grow together brother, zero offense, thanks a lot for helping.

Just try to redownload the indicator from the original post, as I had uploaded a wrong version. Check below the differences.

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thanks i m gona try it.