BeatlemaniaSA wrote: Wed Nov 22, 2023 6:37 pm
This is TRUE because it is NOT OBVIOUS to the trader that the Liquidity Line and Institutional Level triggers are actually counter-trend signals. This is what I have seen.
Hopefully, ATS will update their next version indicating this as the current version is a bit counter intuitive.
i may be saying something stupid, but aren't those 2 meant to be exit signals from a trade, or at least levels to watch out when you are in a trade, and not pure enter signals?
I remember him saying that from the lessons.
Re: Beatle's Trend Trading System
Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:15 pm
by Alanoo212
an idea of what the ATS trend line could be? what indicator is revealed under this? is it available somewhere? I need in tradingviev
Re: Beatle's Trend Trading System
Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:50 pm
by VespaTrader
BeatlemaniaSA wrote: Wed Nov 22, 2023 6:37 pm
This is TRUE because it is NOT OBVIOUS to the trader that the Liquidity Line and Institutional Level triggers are actually counter-trend signals. This is what I have seen.
Hopefully, ATS will update their next version indicating this as the current version is a bit counter intuitive.
Have the feeling the previous version of the assistant ( 2.1 ) was better....will try it again on live account
Re: Beatle's Trend Trading System
Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2023 11:20 pm
by Samoth
Alanoo212 wrote: Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:15 pm
an idea of what the ATS trend line could be? what indicator is revealed under this? is it available somewhere? I need in tradingviev
Looks like "Supertrend" with a small period as settings
Re: Beatle's Trend Trading System
Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2023 11:54 pm
by Forexlearner
Samoth wrote: Wed Nov 22, 2023 11:20 pm
Looks like "Supertrend" with a small period as settings
there is a video where he explains it, it has to do with the inefficiencies in the market as he defines it. It's in one of the youtubes videos i believe
minute 6:00 onwards
i tried using it and it only made things worst :/
Re: Beatle's Trend Trading System
Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2023 12:23 am
by Ogee
Alanoo212 wrote: Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:15 pm
an idea of what the ATS trend line could be? what indicator is revealed under this? is it available somewhere? I need in tradingviev
I think this can make it easier to trade in line with a higher TF
Re: Beatle's Trend Trading System
Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2023 7:40 pm
by josi
Ogee wrote: Thu Nov 23, 2023 12:23 am
VoltyChannel_Stop_v6.7 600+.mq4
Needed some working over - input-wise...
Re: Beatle's Trend Trading System
Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2023 8:13 pm
by Liltune95
You guys seem to be missing the whole point of ATS, there a no settings. The problem with all those ATR and Super trend indicators is that they have settings that constantly need to be optimized to whatever the market conditions are. The Optimization never ends. All ATS indicators, whether the base framework or ATS trend indicator are self optimizing indicators, to all market conditions so there is no tweaking, you can't make it conform to current market conditions with period settings etc.
I had to put that out there because I feel that some are over complicating how simple using ATS is.
Re: Beatle's Trend Trading System
Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2023 8:41 pm
by Ogee
Liltune95 wrote: Thu Nov 23, 2023 8:13 pm
You guys seem to be missing the whole point of ATS, there a no settings. The problem with all those ATR and Super trend indicators is that they have settings that constantly need to be optimized to whatever the market conditions are. The Optimization never ends. All ATS indicators, whether the base framework or ATS trend indicator are self optimizing indicators, to all market conditions so there is no tweaking, you can't make it conform to current market conditions with period settings etc.
I had to put that out there because I feel that some are over complicating how simple using ATS is.
yes, someone was looking for a tradingview equivalent to build a similar system to use on that platform so just pointing out the ATR base used in the majority of these types of indicators.